If you would have actually read the replies, you would have realized we are talking about two different versions of HW ESC's. One has to be soldered, one doesn't, one sensored, one sensorless, and right now, i can get the sensorless version, with programming card on eBay for $1 more than HW direct wants for the sensored version, and $10 less than HW direct wants for the same one. As for the soldering part, helping hands wont help in my situation, and, since i see no advantage to a sensorless ESC, since i dont race or do rock crawling, and by the time i buy the solder, wire, bullet connectors, and heat shrink for the sensored version, I'm about at the price HW direct wants for the sensorless version, it makes more sense for me to just buy the sensorless version in the first place.