We’ve talked enough that believe me-I know exactly what you’re saying, and agree with what you’re saying now as well.
And correct-I was gonna do a bunch of upgrades as well no matter if it was new or not.. and it was STILL more cost effective.. by a LOT actually, which is always the case for me or I wouldn’t do it lol..
However-that being said; I can (and have) simply toss a couple pieces of hardware at it, change some fluids, and a bearing or three, and tidy up the wiring (or lack there of), and still be MILES ahead of if I had bought an RTR grade vehicle… And remember-that RTR is gonna need upgrades right from the box as well…and still won’t be as durable..
I am aware of the natural progression (or at least used to be) of surface RC though, and am not going to just blindly shoot down any option that’s not a 1/8 kit grade *uggy… There are plenty of viable options to choose from, and have a great time.. Sometimes the path to GET TO the place is what makes it all the more fun..
Bottom line-this hobby has the potential for a super high drop out rate.. So balance between spending too much on ultra high quality shiit that lasts a long time (but you better have some mechanical ability/experience), or grab up some fairly cost effective Ready To Rock stuff, stay AWAY from all the ridiculous aluminum trinkets, useless square tire combo’s, and 10” of hub extenders, and just be prepared to fix some weak links as they arrive-as is the nature of the hobby-while you LEARN to RC…
There is a WEALTH of knowledge available to you on this forum. Do not be afraid to learn as much as you can, and not just by asking “what would you buy?”… Look at what others do, or have done. Go to build threads. Look for tech threads. Common parts failures. What’s cheap, what’s expensive… Far more is learned looking for that stuff than the constantly beaten path of “what’s the fastest, biggest, jumpingest, blah, blah, blah…” That typically always gets answers like what’s seen here… “run what I like!!!!”… Just sayin lol..
At the end of the day-it’s YOUR money, and YOUR time, so be careful/particular about letting ANY of us spend it for you..

