Electric for around $300? What should i get?

[bifft it]

Thats really nice, ill let you know. I like the bison, that ecx previously mentioned and yours.

bought it by accident. didnt really want it but was stuck with it. stock tires were replaced with Traxxis wheels and tires so it may well need to be re-geared for them as they are considerably bigger. battery packs have had hardly any use. maybe 1 full discharge.
plenty of extra parts for breakages.
i have to look, but i may be inclined to toss a charger in to the right person.

I am just trying to get rid of things. i have so many parts.....

 

[griff7373]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/282305906642?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1586.l2649


bought it a few years ago. it arrived in near junk status. diffs shot, tranny shot, cups all shot
I re-juvinated it, but never really took much interest in it. its too fast for grandkids

You may want to check your listing EBAY has it listed as a traxxas vehicle:
Item specifics
Condition:
Used: An item that has been used previously. See the seller’s listing for full details and description of ... Read more
Brand:
Traxxas
Fuel Type: Electric Model:
Stampede XL-5 3605
Required Assembly: Almost Ready/ARR/ARF (Accs required) MPN:
TRAC4954
Model Grade: Hobby Grade Scale: 1:10
Color:
Black
Fuel Source: Electric
4WD/2WD: 2WD Type: Off-Road
Motor Type: Brushless UPC:
020334495488
Detailed item info

Product Information
Ideal for racing enthusiasts, the Traxxas Stampede XL-5 3605 is a powerful racing truck that can be driven on rough surfaces. This Traxxas truck is driven by a Titan 12T 550 motor, which provides superior power and raging wheelie action. This Traxxas truck employs TQ radio system for effective remote operation. The Traxxas Stampede XL-5 3605 is equipped with Talon tires that offer excellent grip even in the muddiest of conditions. The Traxxas Stampede XL-5 3605 is provided with an oil-filled ultra shocks that adopt X-ring technology for a smooth performance. The revo-style torque-control slipper clutch protects this radio controlled truck’s gear system and controls wheel-spin. Magnum 272 transmission in this radio controlled truck ensures quick acceleration and high speed.

Product Identifiers
Brand Traxxas

Key Features
Vehicle Type RC Truck
Car Type Off-Road
Fuel Source Electric

Features
State of Assembly Ready-to-Go

Dimensions
Scale

 

[bifft it]

You may want to check your listing EBAY has it listed as a traxxas vehicle:
Item specifics
Condition:
Used: An item that has been used previously. See the seller’s listing for full details and description of ... Read more
Brand:
Traxxas
Fuel Type: Electric Model:
Stampede XL-5 3605
Required Assembly: Almost Ready/ARR/ARF (Accs required) MPN:
TRAC4954
Model Grade: Hobby Grade Scale: 1:10
Color:
Black
Fuel Source: Electric
4WD/2WD: 2WD Type: Off-Road
Motor Type: Brushless UPC:
020334495488
Detailed item info

Product Information
Ideal for racing enthusiasts, the Traxxas Stampede XL-5 3605 is a powerful racing truck that can be driven on rough surfaces. This Traxxas truck is driven by a Titan 12T 550 motor, which provides superior power and raging wheelie action. This Traxxas truck employs TQ radio system for effective remote operation. The Traxxas Stampede XL-5 3605 is equipped with Talon tires that offer excellent grip even in the muddiest of conditions. The Traxxas Stampede XL-5 3605 is provided with an oil-filled ultra shocks that adopt X-ring technology for a smooth performance. The revo-style torque-control slipper clutch protects this radio controlled truck’s gear system and controls wheel-spin. Magnum 272 transmission in this radio controlled truck ensures quick acceleration and high speed.

Product Identifiers
Brand Traxxas

Key Features
Vehicle Type RC Truck
Car Type Off-Road
Fuel Source Electric

Features
State of Assembly Ready-to-Go

Dimensions
Scale

yea, i know, can't change it till re-list.
Hard not to miss HPI all over the ad?

 

[Cupofjoe5]

bought it by accident. didnt really want it but was stuck with it. stock tires were replaced with Traxxis wheels and tires so it may well need to be re-geared for them as they are considerably bigger. battery packs have had hardly any use. maybe 1 full discharge.
plenty of extra parts for breakages.
i have to look, but i may be inclined to toss a charger in to the right person.

I am just trying to get rid of things. i have so many parts.....

How'd you buy it by accident? Lol

 

[griff7373]

True but you know how some people are they may protest it if they win as the add was confusing, just a heads up is all.

 

[Cupofjoe5]

True but you know how some people are they may protest it if they win as the add was confusing, just a heads up is all.

What?

 

[bifft it]

True but you know how some people are they may protest it if they win as the add was confusing, just a heads up is all.

ya, thanks for heads-up
was already aware, and nothing i can do about it till renew. changes to those choices are locked

 

[griff7373]

yea, i know, can't change it till re-list.
Hard not to miss HPI all over the ad?

Was replying to this

 

[olds97_lss]

Any you recommend?

I haven't been running electric very long. In my short time (about a month), I learned that getting a cheaper charger is a bad idea. When I asked my wife for the brushless revo for Christmas, I also included a combo pack of the traxxas dual id charger and 2 traxxas 3S lipos. Then, after she made the order, I read a lot of guys blowing out diffs/axles with the truck running 6S, so then I started investigating 2S packs instead.

For me, run time is paramount. I don't want to run for 10-15 minutes on a set of packs, so I tried to find the highest MAH that would fit in the truck. So far, the SMC 9000mah 2S lipo packs are as big as I have found that will fit. For the money, they are really good packs. Then, after a couple charge cycles with the traxxas charger, I got annoyed at the 2.5+ hour charge times for 2 packs and the fact that I had to reset the charger around the 1.5 hour mark because it has a time/mah limit that it stops at.

So now, I have bought 4 SMC 9000mah 2S packs ($55 a piece) and a dynamite DYNC2050 4x100watt/4x10A charger (another $240 for it and the necessary adapters). I supposed I could have bought 2 dual 20A chargers, but the space I have for this isn't that big and this charger is capable of balance charging all 4 of the 9000mah 2S packs in a little over an hour. If I had gone with 2 20A chargers, I could probably cut that down to 30-40 minutes and charged at 2C vs 1C.

I did find a charger that does 200W x 4/20A x 4, but only on Chinese based websites... for $400.

As for the pack run time, when at the skate park, I get about 40-45 minutes on a set of packs. When at the park that is more wide open, I get 30-35 minutes on a set. So far, this is the only drawback to running electrics. I'm hoping heat/temp won't become an issue as well when it warms up out. I've been running nitro for 15+ years and I'm so used to running them nonstop for 2-3 hours at a time (just gas and go and refill while running), that I guess I didn't realize what it would take to satisfy my bashing needs. So, I may need to get 4 more packs before summer so I can go a few hours without stopping, regardless where I'm able to run. I only run at the skatepark when kids aren't there, which is rare, so I do run a lot at a few local parks that have natural/manmade hills for jumping and whatnot. Still, they are much more wide open and require a lot more speed for the jumps, so I'm on the throttle way more which mean shorter run times per set of packs.

I'm hoping I get at least a couple years of use out of these packs. Considering I usually would burn 3-4 gallons of nitro a year, that would be $75-$100 I'd spend on consumables (plus a few glow plugs here and there). The packs are $125 a set shipped ($15 shipping, not sure if that's what 4 would cost shipped or not). So, I'm into $250 of "consumables" already with electric. I also don't know how long brushless motors last. With the nitro engines I run and how I take care of them, I get 12+ gallons of running before they are tired and need replaced. Since I have 4 nitro rigs... that's a lot of years before any one engine wears out.

So far, the few things I like about electric has me already contemplating converting my savage to electric. The shear torque this thing has, the noise it doesn't make, the cleanliness of the rig and the plug in and go and the being able to run without fighting tune in the cold are all really great things about electric that I've quickly come to like.

Anyway, just sharing my thoughts and experience with it.

 

[Cupofjoe5]

I haven't been running electric very long. In my short time (about a month), I learned that getting a cheaper charger is a bad idea. When I asked my wife for the brushless revo for Christmas, I also included a combo pack of the traxxas dual id charger and 2 traxxas 3S lipos. Then, after she made the order, I read a lot of guys blowing out diffs/axles with the truck running 6S, so then I started investigating 2S packs instead.

For me, run time is paramount. I don't want to run for 10-15 minutes on a set of packs, so I tried to find the highest MAH that would fit in the truck. So far, the SMC 9000mah 2S lipo packs are as big as I have found that will fit. For the money, they are really good packs. Then, after a couple charge cycles with the traxxas charger, I got annoyed at the 2.5+ hour charge times for 2 packs and the fact that I had to reset the charger around the 1.5 hour mark because it has a time/mah limit that it stops at.

So now, I have bought 4 SMC 9000mah 2S packs ($55 a piece) and a dynamite DYNC2050 4x100watt/4x10A charger (another $240 for it and the necessary adapters). I supposed I could have bought 2 dual 20A chargers, but the space I have for this isn't that big and this charger is capable of balance charging all 4 of the 9000mah 2S packs in a little over an hour. If I had gone with 2 20A chargers, I could probably cut that down to 30-40 minutes and charged at 2C vs 1C.

I did find a charger that does 200W x 4/20A x 4, but only on Chinese based websites... for $400.

As for the pack run time, when at the skate park, I get about 40-45 minutes on a set of packs. When at the park that is more wide open, I get 30-35 minutes on a set. So far, this is the only drawback to running electrics. I'm hoping heat/temp won't become an issue as well when it warms up out. I've been running nitro for 15+ years and I'm so used to running them nonstop for 2-3 hours at a time (just gas and go and refill while running), that I guess I didn't realize what it would take to satisfy my bashing needs. So, I may need to get 4 more packs before summer so I can go a few hours without stopping, regardless where I'm able to run. I only run at the skatepark when kids aren't there, which is rare, so I do run a lot at a few local parks that have natural/manmade hills for jumping and whatnot. Still, they are much more wide open and require a lot more speed for the jumps, so I'm on the throttle way more which mean shorter run times per set of packs.

I'm hoping I get at least a couple years of use out of these packs. Considering I usually would burn 3-4 gallons of nitro a year, that would be $75-$100 I'd spend on consumables (plus a few glow plugs here and there). The packs are $125 a set shipped ($15 shipping, not sure if that's what 4 would cost shipped or not). So, I'm into $250 of "consumables" already with electric. I also don't know how long brushless motors last. With the nitro engines I run and how I take care of them, I get 12+ gallons of running before they are tired and need replaced. Since I have 4 nitro rigs... that's a lot of years before any one engine wears out.

So far, the few things I like about electric has me already contemplating converting my savage to electric. The shear torque this thing has, the noise it doesn't make, the cleanliness of the rig and the plug in and go and the being able to run without fighting tune in the cold are all really great things about electric that I've quickly come to like.

Anyway, just sharing my thoughts and experience with it.

Thats some good info, yeah after i get mine i figure ill run it a while before i start upgrading packs and what not.

 

[olds97_lss]

Thats some good info, yeah after i get mine i figure ill run it a while before i start upgrading packs and what not.

I thought the same thing... a month and nearly $800 later... lol

Not to mention, mine was a revo, which starts out with weaknesses that need addressed right away. I have RPM true track on the rear, RPM arms/carriers on the front, a HRR motor brace (as the motor flexing the motor plate on jumps is a known weak spot), upgraded shocks, custom rear skid, chassis braces on the front and rear and an upgraded single servo setup... I've already spent more on replacement or support parts than the rig cost!

 

[Cupofjoe5]

I thought the same thing... a month and nearly $800 later... lol

Not to mention, mine was a revo, which starts out with weaknesses that need addressed right away. I have RPM true track on the rear, RPM arms/carriers on the front, a HRR motor brace (as the motor flexing the motor plate on jumps is a known weak spot), upgraded shocks, custom rear skid, chassis braces on the front and rear and an upgraded single servo setup... I've already spent more on replacement or support parts than the rig cost!

Ouch! Yeah we'll wait and see how mine goes. Lol

 

[bifft it]

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I thought the same thing... a month and nearly $800 later... lol

Not to mention, mine was a revo, which starts out with weaknesses that need addressed right away. I have RPM true track on the rear, RPM arms/carriers on the front, a HRR motor brace (as the motor flexing the motor plate on jumps is a known weak spot), upgraded shocks, custom rear skid, chassis braces on the front and rear and an upgraded single servo setup... I've already spent more on replacement or support parts than the rig cost!

costs to run electric are definately higher by the time you invest in a few sets of batteries,wire, connectors, chargers and time vested in getting things set up. motors/esc are considerable higher VS their nitro counterparts. temps still need monitored. electric vehicles ned to be "beefier" due to the instantanious power provided at the touch of the throttle.
I'm not saying electric isnt fun. it just comes with a whole different sets of headaches

 

[olds97_lss]

Things I'm still curious about are how long packs last and how long motors/esc's last. With nitro, I'd burn around 3-4 gallons a year (4 on a good year). On average, I'd get 12 gallons out of an engine before it was dead. So, worst case with fuel, $120 a year for that (and I could run all day long) and maybe 2 or 3 glow plugs.

With electric, I'm finding that I'll probably need 6-8 (probably 8) lipo packs. At $125 a pair, that's $500 for lipo's. I'm assuming unless I do something really dumb, the charger will last a long while like my old NiMH charger. The stock motor/esc can be replaced via ebay for $200. I think the motor can be replaced with stock for $60-$70 (via ebay).

From what I read, lipo's last a couple years. So, that's $250 a year on batteries vs $125 a year for nitro. As for the motor... what are the odds it will last 4+ years like my nitro's? Granted, my LRP's were all around $180 with tax or shipping, so that's the equivalent to 3 motors.

So, the motors vs engines is probably a wash in the long term. Where I'll see the cost difference may be with the batteries being twice as much a year, if they last me 2 years.

 

[Cupofjoe5]

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Things I'm still curious about are how long packs last and how long motors/esc's last. With nitro, I'd burn around 3-4 gallons a year (4 on a good year). On average, I'd get 12 gallons out of an engine before it was dead. So, worst case with fuel, $120 a year for that (and I could run all day long) and maybe 2 or 3 glow plugs.

With electric, I'm finding that I'll probably need 6-8 (probably 8) lipo packs. At $125 a pair, that's $500 for lipo's. I'm assuming unless I do something really dumb, the charger will last a long while like my old NiMH charger. The stock motor/esc can be replaced via ebay for $200. I think the motor can be replaced with stock for $60-$70 (via ebay).

From what I read, lipo's last a couple years. So, that's $250 a year on batteries vs $125 a year for nitro. As for the motor... what are the odds it will last 4+ years like my nitro's? Granted, my LRP's were all around $180 with tax or shipping, so that's the equivalent to 3 motors.

So, the motors vs engines is probably a wash in the long term. Where I'll see the cost difference may be with the batteries being twice as much a year, if they last me 2 years.

Wallet down the drain

 

[olds97_lss]

M

Wallet down the drain

Yep.

Still, if the truck doesn't start shelling diffs or axles every other weekend, I'll be happy.

 

[cbaker65]

Things I'm still curious about are how long packs last and how long motors/esc's last. With nitro, I'd burn around 3-4 gallons a year (4 on a good year). On average, I'd get 12 gallons out of an engine before it was dead. So, worst case with fuel, $120 a year for that (and I could run all day long) and maybe 2 or 3 glow plugs.

With electric, I'm finding that I'll probably need 6-8 (probably 8) lipo packs. At $125 a pair, that's $500 for lipo's. I'm assuming unless I do something really dumb, the charger will last a long while like my old NiMH charger. The stock motor/esc can be replaced via ebay for $200. I think the motor can be replaced with stock for $60-$70 (via ebay).

From what I read, lipo's last a couple years. So, that's $250 a year on batteries vs $125 a year for nitro. As for the motor... what are the odds it will last 4+ years like my nitro's? Granted, my LRP's were all around $180 with tax or shipping, so that's the equivalent to 3 motors.

So, the motors vs engines is probably a wash in the long term. Where I'll see the cost difference may be with the batteries being twice as much a year, if they last me 2 years.

Also ,don't lipo's have to be maintained during storage? ,Like if they sit too long ,shelf life if you will?

 

[olds97_lss]

I think if you put them at a storage charge, they are good for quite a few months before having to reset them. They don't self discharge much. Regardless, I doubt mine will sit more than a few weeks without being used. One of the main reasons I bought it was to have something I could always run when it's cold/snowy/wet out.

In the past month, I've run this thing more hours than I ever ran nitro's in the winter for 15 years combined! Then again, it's new. Well, sort of new as I have 2 other nitro revos.

 

[cbaker65]

I think if you put them at a storage charge, they are good for quite a few months before having to reset them. They don't self discharge much. Regardless, I doubt mine will sit more than a few weeks without being used. One of the main reasons I bought it was to have something I could always run when it's cold/snowy/wet out.

In the past month, I've run this thing more hours than I ever ran nitro's in the winter for 15 years combined! Then again, it's new. Well, sort of new as I have 2 other nitro revos.

Lol...I guess my lipo's are gone!...

 

[bifft it]

Things I'm still curious about are how long packs last and how long motors/esc's last. With nitro, I'd burn around 3-4 gallons a year (4 on a good year). On average, I'd get 12 gallons out of an engine before it was dead. So, worst case with fuel, $120 a year for that (and I could run all day long) and maybe 2 or 3 glow plugs.

With electric, I'm finding that I'll probably need 6-8 (probably 8) lipo packs. At $125 a pair, that's $500 for lipo's. I'm assuming unless I do something really dumb, the charger will last a long while like my old NiMH charger. The stock motor/esc can be replaced via ebay for $200. I think the motor can be replaced with stock for $60-$70 (via ebay).

From what I read, lipo's last a couple years. So, that's $250 a year on batteries vs $125 a year for nitro. As for the motor... what are the odds it will last 4+ years like my nitro's? Granted, my LRP's were all around $180 with tax or shipping, so that's the equivalent to 3 motors.

So, the motors vs engines is probably a wash in the long term. Where I'll see the cost difference may be with the batteries being twice as much a year, if they last me 2 years.

Electric motors should last considerably longer than a notro as the only contact parts are the bearings. Keep track of them and the heat and you should be goid a long while

Also ,don't lipo's have to be maintained during storage? ,Like if they sit too long ,shelf life if you will?

Of the 2 sets of lipos i own. 1-A/1-B. 2A/2B the 1 set has been giving me issues. Set 2 seem good to go after 2. Years of storage no on trickle-charge.
I am thinking that set1 may have had connector issues and i am trying to re-solder those rotten connectors back to them.

Had an opportunity to run my truck on set2 this morning before it thawed. No issues whatsoever with motor heading or scting goody