Who was wrenching today??? What did you do??

[CJSRCLIFE]

Does it handle any different without the wing? If not I'd tri it without for a while.

I'll have to test it, Although without the wing it won't have as much drag or downforce as when the black wing is installed. So it might hit a higher top speed theoretically.

 

[Ramp addict]

Should i keep it like this?

Yes, but it needs to be finished. Possibly a piece of lexan cut to fit and paint to match or flat black. With a little more work I see it looking really good.

 

[Doom!]

I'd be worried without the down force the rear end might break loose easier and be less manageable at higher speeds.

 

[CC1999]

I think it looks a bit better without the wing.
I think it has more of a scale / realistic look without it.

Often times I find the over exaggerated stuck on bits give many different RCs more of a toy look, then a scale model look, which I tend to really prefer a scale realist look myself.

 

[Littlemotor]

I think it looks a bit better without the wing.
I think it has more of a scale / realistic look without it.

Often times I find the over exaggerated stuck on bits give many different RCs more of a toy look, then a scale model look, which I tend to really prefer a scale realist look myself.

Kinda like beadlocks that don’t hold the tire to the wheel?

The wing serves a purpose more than just aesthetics.. These vehicles are so grossly overpowered, that this would be like having 3500rwhp in a 1:1 vehicle. At that speed, and power; tire compound is useless without downforce. Almost every 1:1 vehicle I know of at that horsepower runs an appropriate wing to make the car work, and not get the driver killed. -Many at less than 1/3 that power level..

 

[CC1999]

Kinda like beadlocks that don’t hold the tire to the wheel?

The wing serves a purpose more than just aesthetics.. These vehicles are so grossly overpowered, that this would be like having 3500rwhp in a 1:1 vehicle. At that speed, and power; tire compound is useless without downforce. Almost every 1:1 vehicle I know of at that horsepower runs an appropriate wing to make the car work, and not get the driver killed. -Many at less than 1/3 that power level..

I always assumed the wings were functional, but I thought it was more a function of ultra high speed running in order to create the down force that a tail wing creates.

If I owned one of these and I have been eying them for a while now.
I don’t really have long enough open smooth hard surface to get up to the speed needed for the wing to create the down force it’s meant for.

I see most guys just ripping mostly drifting these around on their paved driveways, or nearby random parking lots.

For me after seeing how much more realist scale looking it is without the wing,
I am 99% sure I would be taking it off too.

 

[Littlemotor]

I always assumed the wings were functional, but I thought it was more a function of ultra high speed running in order to create the down force that a tail wing creates.

If I owned one of these and I have been eying them for a while now.
I don’t really have long enough open smooth hard surface to get up to the speed needed for the wing to create the down force it’s meant for.

I see most guys just ripping mostly drifting these around on their paved driveways, or nearby random parking lots.

For me after seeing how much more realist scale looking it is without the wing,
I am 99% sure I would be taking it off too.

It’s absolutely needed even at speeds of say 20mph on up.. Take one off and drive it.. You’ll put it back on if you wanna have a good time driving lol…

 

[CC1999]

It’s absolutely needed even at speeds of say 20mph on up.. Take one off and drive it.. You’ll put it back on if you wanna have a good time driving lol…

I guess I will have to get one and try it sometime.
I just know none of my RCs that I run on a regular bases have wings. None have any problems running over 20-40 mph.
Granted none are really street rigs like this. UDR, Baja Rey, X-Maxx , slash, Maxx Slash, all seem to handle higher speeds the standard LCG slash being the least stable at higher speeds, significant lighter weight off-road tire setup is likely why, but it can do it, UDR just dies higher speed on pavement better imo. But none have a wing.

I think the only RCs I run on occasion with any sort of wing is my Rustler 4x4s .

My new Tenacity pro has a wing too.
I guess I could play around with pulling it off and see if I can tell any difference in the 20-40 speed range.

The Losi Tenacity has the more pronounced taller wing, should be more evident on it, so I will try it first.
I just got the Tenacity so I have not ran it yet, but I am planning on it being an active use track car.

 

[Littlemotor]

I guess I will have to get one and try it sometime.
I just know none of my RCs that I run on a regular bases have wings. None have any problems running over 20-40 mph.
Granted none are really street rigs like this. UDR, Baja Rey, X-Maxx , slash, Maxx Slash, all seem to handle higher speeds the standard LCG slash being the least stable at higher speeds, significant lighter weight off-road tire setup is likely why, but it can do it, UDR just dies higher speed on pavement better imo. But none have a wing.

I think the only RCs I run on occasion is my Rustler 4x4s .
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My new Tenacity pro has a wing too.
I guess I could play around with pulling it off and see if I can tell any difference in the 20-40 speed range.
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The Losi Tenacity has the more pronounced taller wing, should be more evident on it, so I will try it first.

Completely apples to oranges. Every off-road vehicle I have use wings, and none of them are drivable without. It’s not preference from where I’m standing. And I couldn’t care less about how it looks-I care about it working. “Realist”, “scale”? They’re thousand dollar toy cars. They need to do what they’re designed to. That’s not happening without “all the extra bits” that make them work.

 

[CC1999]

Completely apples to oranges. Every off-road vehicle I have use wings, and none of them are drivable without. It’s not preference from where I’m standing. And I couldn’t care less about how it looks-I care about it working. “Realist”, “scale”? They’re thousand dollar toy cars. They need to do what they’re designed to. That’s not happening without “all the extra bits” that make them work.

I would say it's apparent that this is more or less a simple to each their own sort of thing.

I drive mine just fine without any wings, since most of mine don't have them anyway.

To me the scale side of it is paramount to rather I am enjoying driving and watching it move over the terrain or rather I could care less about it.
If it looks sort of cartoonish or unrealistic, I am really not all that interested in it.
I guess I just never got into all the aerobatic flips and hard-core bashing etc.
To me when I do drop a grand on one, last thing I care to do is break it or trash the body with a bad landing at least if I can help it anyway.
They will get beat up and traction rolled, flipped or ran into by others on the track enough with just racing around the track with my buddies.

 

[Littlemotor]

I would say it's apparent that this is more or less a simple to each their own sort of thing.

I drive mine just fine without any wings, since most of mine don't have them anyway.

To me the scale side of it is paramount to rather I am enjoying driving and watching it move over the terrain or rather I could care less about it.
If it looks sort of cartoonish or unrealistic, I am really not all that interested in it.
I guess I just never got into all the aerobatic flips and hard-core bashing etc.
To me when I do drop a grand on one, last thing I care to do is break it or trash the body with a bad landing at least if I can help it anyway.
They will get beat up and traction rolled, flipped or ran into by others on the track enough with just racing around the track with my buddies.

It is not. You are worried about looks, while saying you don’t see them doing much. You’re driving monster trucks, and big, heavy, slow to react short course vehicles. I’m saying that they are absolutely needed for literally just about every other vehicle that has one out of the box, or with the kit. You keep saying you don’t see them going fast enough to use the downforce-and I’m telling you they do at 20mph (some even less than that). I’m simply saying that they are there because they are doing work, and are needed. That’s not a matter of opinion, it’s factual info. Hell-we ran a massive flat sheet of lexan glued/strutted to the side of our Super Late Model McAllister bodies on little tiny 1/10 scale dirt oval cars (NOT Traxxas RTR “scale”), and if your dam came off mid race, you finished dead last. That was in 1987, and those cars were DOG SLOW. If you want to not run one on your stuff-that’s none of my concern, but I won’t be convinced they’re not needed lol…

As for “cartoonish or unrealistic”, I’m not sure what you mean… You’ve never watched drag racing, NASA/SCCA, LeMans, or Pikes Peak on TV? It seems like what you’re saying is that if it’s not a Traxxas Slash, Rustler, or X-Maxx, then it’s not realistic.

There are other people here that build, and drive other vehicles. They aren’t gonna always fall into the same rules, or characteristics as your horde of Snappy Traxxas RTR’s..

No idea what flips, and aerobatics have to do with anything here either.. Nobody that’s in this convo acts like a moron YT influencer with their vehicles sailing 200ft through the air, or lawn-darting over and over all day long. I’ve been building, racing, and wheeling competition grade race kits since the mid 1980’s, and take care of my stuff. None of that has anything to do with me educating someone on the need for proper aerodynamics on a thousand dollar RC vehicle.

 

[Guest D]

Back in the mid '90s when I built my rc10t. My buddy that raced said it needs a spoiler when he saw me at the dirt track. I didn't think it would make any difference but it was tremendous in the difference in traction I was getting after I did.

The body sits high because it has posts for a different truck body I was running.

 

[CC1999]

Completely apples to oranges. Every off-road vehicle I have use wings, and none of them are drivable without. It’s not preference from where I’m standing. And I couldn’t care less about how it looks-I care about it working. “Realist”, “scale”? They’re thousand dollar toy cars. They need to do what they’re designed to. That’s not happening without “all the extra bits” that make them work.

I am still not sure what vehicles your referring to all having wings.
I was referring to the Sledge I returned last week because I thought it looked a bit cartoonish, and I knew I would never like running it.
Same reason I sold XRT.

To me this looks a little cartoonish or unrealistic.
Never seen a real truck that looked anything like this.
It was clear once I had it in hand that it looked more like a trickster style basher meant for big airobatic stunts that real trucks don't really do.
Making it not my really well suited for my taste.
I have several fiends that love that sort of thing just not my cup of tea.
They jump the crap out of their XRTs and rustlers and typically leave my track with their RCs in pieces.
But I know they had a good time, it is what they like to doing with their RCs.

I totally understand wings and aerodynamics why.
This started with a Car that was clearly designed to look like a 60/70s muscle car, and if driven out around a driveway or parking lot area where speeds are not going to be crazy it simply looked much more scale and period correct without that giant wing. I don't think that particular car would get to out of sorts at 20-30 mph. Maybe at 40-50 mph it might need that wing. I was simply stating I thought it looked better without it and for a lot of guys that like drifting and using them in other ways besides high-speed runs that I thought it would or should still perform just fine.

 

[Guest D]

No wing....

 

[WickedFog]

He was simply asking what others thought on how it looks. It looks better on in my opinion @CJSRCLIFE

 

[clm77]

Thanks. It's a bit of a Frankenstein, JATO 4x4 Arms, EHD drive shafts but standard shock towers (front trimmed to accommodate the fatter shafts). Center diff, no slipper.

Dug out this Proline tough color body from the stack to top it off.

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Forgive me please if this is a question with an obvious answer; how do the JATO arms differ from the Slash 4x4 arms? I'm just beginning to learn Traxxas parts interchange. Thanks!

 

[9x19]

The Jato 4x4 arms have a slightly different shape on one side where they added a sway bar attachment point, but otherwise they are the same length and use the same size suspension pins.

https://jennysrc.com/collections/ja...xl-suspension-a-arms-f-r-3655-traxxas-90386-4

 

[Ramp addict]

I've had a good time binge driving my new Tekno MT48 but it time to put some drive time on a real truck.
I've replaced my Kraton XL's rear gear box, rebuilt its servo, and even gave it a bath. The XL is ready for this weekend.

 

[clm77]

The Jato 4x4 arms have a slightly different shape on one side where they added a sway bar attachment point, but otherwise they are the same length and use the same size suspension pins.

https://jennysrc.com/collections/ja...xl-suspension-a-arms-f-r-3655-traxxas-90386-4

Thank you for sharing this information with me!

 

[9x19]

Thank you for sharing this information with me!

Of course, no problem.