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How important are Lipo charge protection bags? Are they necessary for Lipo 4S 50C batteries intended for use in a 1/5 scale RC buggy or truck? What could happen to my batteries if I don’t invest in Lipo protection bags?

Thank you in advance PapaBear
 
How important are Lipo charge protection bags? Are they necessary for Lipo 4S 50C batteries intended for use in a 1/5 scale RC buggy or truck? What could happen to my batteries if I don’t invest in Lipo protection bags?

Thank you in advance PapaBear
I have been in RC since 83. I have never had a battery blow up or vent, but I charge my batteries in my toolbox anyway. I actually turned a Kennedy roll-around into a charging station. I use a balance extension along with some 6"cables to drop the LiPo into the top drawer. Better safe than sorry.
 
Um, I am not sure what to make of what you just said. maybe if you posted a picture of your charging station that would help a lot.
 
I use them to be safe and keep them in metal ammo boxes. I've never had a problem with Lipo's but it helps me sleep at night.. :D
 
Use a lipo bag desgnayed charge box. I purchased 1 of the 1st bat safe boxes 5 years b4 there stolen named box went to go fund me. and hit the world...I always charge every lipo from 200mah 1 cell to 15,000 mah 4 cell.
 

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I also charge my lipos in an ammo box. I've had one lipo fire before, you dont want to have a lipo do THIS and not have it contained in something. This is my I am adamant these days about being able to read the IR of the LiPo cells so I can head off a potential issue before there is one.
 
Right now I have 2 lipo bags: 1 for charging, the other for storage.
I've been meaning to buy a steel fireplace ash can(with a tight lid), and put both bags inside of that. Drill a hole, on the side, just big enough to get the charger AC plugs through, then seal with high temp gasket sealant. If a lipo fire is anything like a regular fire, oxygen deprivation is the key to controlling it.
 
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You definitely want to remove the LiPo battery from the RC vehicle and charge it each time in a LiPo charging bag. It only takes one bad incident to wish that you did.
 
Lion and lipo cells already contain oxygen in the form of oxidized metal. If a lipo fire occurs it will steal the oxygen from the oxidized transition metal inside the cell. So much like thermite once that sucker goes there is no smothering it, at least not with water or lack of air. The best you can do is try and contain the heat and the flames in some fashion and have either a type ABC or type BC fire extinguisher handy. The lipo bags are meant to try to contain the fire and heat to some extent but if youve ever watched people on youtube testing the effectivness of lipo bags most of them leave a lot to be desired. Thats why I personally use an ammo can with a small hole drilled in it. Worst case scenario I can yank the plugs and carry the lipo into the yard away from everything before it fully goes up or if I happen not to catch it in time at least the fire and heat will be contained inside the can and the can is sitting on a piece of wood that if it were to get discolored from the heat then I can simply replace it.

Hes a video of a lipo burning under water.
 
Lion and lipo cells already contain oxygen in the form of oxidized metal. If a lipo fire occurs it will steal the oxygen from the oxidized transition metal inside the cell. So much like thermite once that sucker goes there is no smothering it, at least not with water or lack of air. The best you can do is try and contain the heat and the flames in some fashion and have either a type ABC or type BC fire extinguisher handy. The lipo bags are meant to try to contain the fire and heat to some extent but if youve ever watched people on youtube testing the effectivness of lipo bags most of them leave a lot to be desired. Thats why I personally use an ammo can with a small hole drilled in it. Worst case scenario I can yank the plugs and carry the lipo into the yard away from everything before it fully goes up or if I happen not to catch it in time at least the fire and heat will be contained inside the can and the can is sitting on a piece of wood that if it were to get discolored from the heat then I can simply replace it.

Hes a video of a lipo burning under water.
Good info!

While I don't have a steel container yet, I do make it a point to have my lipo bags either on the concrete floor of the basement or as it is right now, sitting on top of bricks set on top of a milk crate which sits on the concrete floor. Never on a counter top or right next to a wall or anything that could easily burn.
 
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Although LiPo bags cannot contain 100% of the fire, they suppress a good amount (also gives you more time to move it to a safer spot before completely igniting). I charge my LiPos in LiPo bags on a stone slab. Although it is next to a wall, it's also right next to a sliding door, so if anything does happen, I can slide open the door, and chuck it out onto the concrete outside.
 
This thread reminded me I had some really old lipos that I've been meaning to get rid of. So, I packed them all up earlier today, and took it to Best Buy. They have a free recycling program.

Also, I was able to come across an ash can at one of the stores. Didn't think I could find one this time of the year.
 
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Thank you everyone for all the information. I did not expect this thread to get so many replies.

Papabear
 
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