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I am VERY familiar with the underside of that car. I have had the enire suspension on the floor a few times now.
They could try to scam me and I could drag the manager out to SHOW ME (thats the one that usually gets them)

I have been a wrench for years. I used to own a salvage yard. I wrote the book on scamming the scammers. ;)

I did have a shop try to tell me once that the BRAND NEW tie rod ends on my Envoy were junk and it would not pass inspection.
I left with my sticker that day. :rolleyes:
NTB was the shadiest shop in town!

Inspection shops who also do repairs are generally scammers around here.
 
Most of the time, when I hear someone claim a shop is trying to scam them, its usually b.s. The vehicle owner is usually the problem, not the shop.

What do mean my 200k mile p.o.s. that I've never done an ounce of maintenance to needs repairs to pass a safety inspection? Scammer!! Please......

I'm not saying all techs are honest, but I think the majority are. Competent, well thats a different story.

I've seen lots of brand new 'junk' tie rod ends that won't pass a legitimate safety inspection for failure to rotate. I usually let that go but....
 
I don't believe in that "scamming shop crap" , most shops that I've ever seen has an hourly cost posted on the wall or
a list of costs for most particular parts replacement.
If it keeps me from rolling around in grease, I'm all for it.
 
Most of the time, when I hear someone claim a shop is trying to scam them, its usually b.s. The vehicle owner is usually the problem, not the shop.

What do mean my 200k mile p.o.s. that I've never done an ounce of maintenance to needs repairs to pass a safety inspection? Scammer!! Please......

I'm not saying all techs are honest, but I think the majority are. Competent, well thats a different story.

I've seen lots of brand new 'junk' tie rod ends that won't pass a legitimate safety inspection for failure to rotate. I usually let that go but....
I buy Moog, Timken, SMP, H&R, FRRP... OEM suppliers whenever possible. I don't buy cheap parts. It doesn't totally prevent failures but I've been pretty lucky I guess. Names don't mean what they used to.

I install all my own parts. I have a ball joint, tie rod end and the right side knuckle for the Focus sitting in boxes on my shelf right now.
I changed the transmission on my garage floor last summer. I know the car pretty well. I actively maintain it.


Envoy is no different. I am not scared to get dirty. I get under my cars regularly.

I've been doing this since I was a kid. I was not kidding about owning a salvage yard. I replaced my first engine by myself in a 70 Dodge Coronet 318 when I was 13 years old. Drove it in, drove it out about 7 hours later.
I still have that car too.
I am not the best mechanic out there but I am far from an incompetent, clueless, whining car owner.

Generally, If theres an issue, I'll catch it before it ever makes it to inspection.
My OCD is real. Thats no joke either.

My Focus has 270k miles on it and techs who get under it still tell me that they are surprised by how clean the car is. It didn't get 270k because I ignored it.

When the car failed inspection this year for muffler split and heat shields flopping, the inspector asked us to come look under the car so we could see. No issues with this at all.
The guy gets paid either way, pass or fail and doesn't care much if I do or don't pass.
I know things rust, break... I live in New England. This is no surprise.

I don't think this guy was trying to scam me at all even though he offered to remove the shields for us while it was in the air.

Telling me my truck won't pass inspection and then not being able to show me why... thats not gonna fly.
This shop gets paid to replace parts that may or may not be junk even when they can't show the customer. I personally, with my own tools, JUST replaced one upper and both lower control arms because the big bushing on each side was junk and the truck drove like it was on the moon with low gravity... inner and outers, rotors and pads, front and rear. Again, Moog everywhere but Brembo rotors and pads. Not Scamazon's finest.
They are gonna have to do better than tell me that they ran out of mechanics right after my truck failed. Gonna have to call that a scam.
Seriously? I replaced the entire front end, brakes on all 4 corners but decided to skimp on a tie rod?
The truck is still tight and dtives fine with my 'junk' tie rod. It has passed since.

I agree, lots of ppl bitch because cars are expensive so its easier to ignore the small thing until it turns into a massive issue or pretend cars aren't ALL mechanical @$$holes that need some something on the regular.
You think YOUR customers are bad?
Try dealing with ppl who bitch because a used part thats 1/4 price of the dealer is STILL too much money. Cheap pricks. I don't miss a second of thst bullsh!t or the industry in general.
 
I buy Moog, Timken, SMP, H&R, FRRP... OEM suppliers whenever possible. I don't buy cheap parts. It doesn't totally prevent failures but I've been pretty lucky I guess. Names don't mean what they used to.

I install all my own parts. I have a ball joint, tie rod end and the right side knuckle for the Focus sitting in boxes on my shelf right now.
I changed the transmission on my garage floor last summer. I know the car pretty well. I actively maintain it.


Envoy is no different. I am not scared to get dirty. I get under my cars regularly.

I've been doing this since I was a kid. I was not kidding about owning a salvage yard. I replaced my first engine by myself in a 70 Dodge Coronet 318 when I was 13 years old. Drove it in, drove it out about 7 hours later.
I still have that car too.
I am not the best mechanic out there but I am far from an incompetent, clueless, whining car owner.

Generally, If theres an issue, I'll catch it before it ever makes it to inspection.
My OCD is real. Thats no joke either.

My Focus has 270k miles on it and techs who get under it still tell me that they are surprised by how clean the car is. It didn't get 270k because I ignored it.

When the car failed inspection this year for muffler split and heat shields flopping, the inspector asked us to come look under the car so we could see. No issues with this at all.
The guy gets paid either way, pass or fail and doesn't care much if I do or don't pass.
I know things rust, break... I live in New England. This is no surprise.

I don't think this guy was trying to scam me at all even though he offered to remove the shields for us while it was in the air.

Telling me my truck won't pass inspection and then not being able to show me why... thats not gonna fly.
This shop gets paid to replace parts that may or may not be junk even when they can't show the customer. I personally, with my own tools, JUST replaced one upper and both lower control arms because the big bushing on each side was junk and the truck drove like it was on the moon with low gravity... inner and outers, rotors and pads, front and rear. Again, Moog everywhere but Brembo rotors and pads. Not Scamazon's finest.
They are gonna have to do better than tell me that they ran out of mechanics right after my truck failed. Gonna have to call that a scam.
Seriously? I replaced the entire front end, brakes on all 4 corners but decided to skimp on a tie rod?
The truck is still tight and dtives fine with my 'junk' tie rod. It has passed since.

I agree, lots of ppl bitch because cars are expensive so its easier to ignore the small thing until it turns into a massive issue or pretend cars aren't ALL mechanical @$$holes that need some something on the regular.
You think YOUR customers are bad?
Try dealing with ppl who bitch because a used part thats 1/4 price of the dealer is STILL too much money. Cheap pricks. I don't miss a second of thst bullsh!t or the industry in general.

Just to clarify, I was not at all insinuating you were 'that person'. Just that there's plenty of them out there and I wish they would stop coming to me for help.

I get tired of hearing some other shop was trying to scam them and take great pleasure in telling them they need exactly what the so called scammer told them they needed. The look on their face makes me smile. On the inside of course. I keep that chit to myself.
 
Just to clarify, I was not at all insinuating you were 'that person'. Just that there's plenty of them out there and I wish they would stop coming to me for help.

I get tired of hearing some other shop was trying to scam them and take great pleasure in telling them they need exactly what the so called scammer told them they needed. The look on their face makes me smile. On the inside of course. I keep that chit to myself.
I felt like an introduction of sorts was necessary. I have heard all sorts of stories from all different sorts too.
I didn't mean to sound like you were challenging me directly.

I get the brush off from shops sometimes. They see my white beard and think, Santa can't fix his own car, right?

Wrong! 🤣

My buddy in Vegas...
He lived in MA, knew a guy with an anniversary edition Trans Am 301 turbo (🤮)
It was, still is immaculate. 19k on the clock.
It was stored in a heated BASEMENT, not garage. It got wiped with diapers on weekends... It was a brand new car when my buddy bought it.
He moved to Vegas. Had the car shipped there, not driven.
He had a shop in Vegas go over it, tune it up...

The shop called him up and told him his motor was going to need a head or maybe a whole new motor... My buddy was pretty upset by this so he had another shop look at it. They confirmed the motor problem. Its def got a skip. Needs to come apart.

I laughed and had him drive the junk car over so I could have a look. There is NO WAY this car needs an engine unless it just had the snot beat out of it in Ferris Buellers Day Off part 2 by the shipping co.

1 of the clips inside one of the spark plug boots was folded backwards. Hmmmm...

I bend it back, put the wire on correctly, then we went for a ride in his car with the brand new 'rebuilt engine'.

Scammers? Hackers? Does it matter really?

He bought more than one Escalade from this place. They know he has money.
I used to try to see the good in ppl. If its related to food, money or drugs, even the best people can become the biggest of dirtbags.


I used to see it pretty regularly at the salvage yard. Misdiagnosed cars, junked.

There were shops that I sold parts to who I would trust to do work without question. There were plenty of honest ppl out there who were dealing with used parts because they were TRYING to save their customer's money.

It wasn't all bad by any means but as the saying goes, a few bad apples...
 
I am VERY familiar with the underside of that car. I have had the enire suspension on the floor a few times now.
They could try to scam me and I could drag the manager out to SHOW ME (thats the one that usually gets them)

I have been a wrench for years. I used to own a salvage yard. I wrote the book on scamming the scammers. ;)

I did have a shop try to tell me once that the BRAND NEW tie rod ends on my Envoy were junk and it would not pass inspection.
I left with my sticker that day. :rolleyes:
NTB was the shadiest shop in town!

Inspection shops who also do repairs are generally scammers around here.
I had a 2001 f150. I put a whole new front end under the day before. Ball joints, tie rods, pitman arm, idler arm, sway bar links, etc. Alignment shop said my front end was shot and they couldn’t do they alignment without replacing parts… I had to call the troopers to get my truck back because they wanted $180 for an “inspection fee” and the alignment was only supposed to be $120.
 
I had a 2001 f150. I put a whole new front end under the day before. Ball joints, tie rods, pitman arm, idler arm, sway bar links, etc. Alignment shop said my front end was shot and they couldn’t do they alignment without replacing parts… I had to call the troopers to get my truck back because they wanted $180 for an “inspection fee” and the alignment was only supposed to be $120.
You must run into the same shops I do.

Having to call the cops???

I think I'd have called the news, got a BIG camera so the shop KNOWS they are being filmed... THEN call the cops.

I am pretty positive the shop would have been the ones looking for the cops' help if they pulled that sh!t with me actually.
Hold my truck HOSTAGE???
NOT A CHANCE!!!
Might actually want to bypass the cops and call the National Guard or something.
HOLY SH!T!!!
 
You must run into the same shops I do.

Having to call the cops???

I think I'd have called the news, got a BIG camera so the shop KNOWS they are being filmed... THEN call the cops.

I am pretty positive the shop would have been the ones looking for the cops' help if they pulled that sh!t with me actually.
Hold my truck HOSTAGE???
NOT A CHANCE!!!
Might actually want to bypass the cops and call the National Guard or something.
HOLY SH!T!!!
I ended up taking it to the dealership of all places. They said it was cleanest and tightest front end they’ve ever seen on one of those trucks. They got the alignment perfect first try I still get coupons in the mail for that shop that tried that, like I’d ever bring anything to them again. 😂
 
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New neighbors been letting the kids fish their ponds. Really need to get that RC boat now 😅
 
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New neighbors been letting the kids fish their ponds. Really need to get that RC boat now 😅
Every year, I would get my fishing/hunting combo. Got this year's lic just a couple of weeks ago. I'm making it a point to actually get out fishing, this year, since I didn't at all, last year.
Regardless, I buy the combo every year just to support NH f&g.
 
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Every year, I would get my fishing/hunting combo. Got this year's lic just a couple off weeks ago. I'm making it a point to actually get out fishing, this year, since I didn't at all, last year.
Regardless, I buy the combo every year just to support NH f&g.
It’s been a relief for me in a way. With the craziness that life has brought recently, we haven’t had the boat out for a while. It’s nice he can just walk across the road and get his fishing fix in.

I may have also just placed an order for a disruptor 😅
 
It’s been a relief for me in a way. With the craziness that life has brought recently, we haven’t had the boat out for a while. It’s nice he can just walk across the road and get his fishing fix in.

I may have also just placed an order for a disruptor 😅
I finally drove my blast in the pool. Gonna test it with a camera then try to put it in a pond. Gonna buy some string and cut a pool noodle in 5 one foot links to hopefully bring it back shall it die or get logdged.
 
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