My Velineon motor has been great, not sure the version (will take motor out to identify soon, needs a cleaning

I'm sure), but it isn't the version most people have. Most VXL systems have the motor version that comes with the rereleased "cheapen'd up" ESC, the 3355R. I have the the not so well know and rather rare 3355X, having the ability to use & auto detect Sensored and Sensorless - Brushless motors OR Brushed motors. It also has No Motor limit in Brushless OR Brushed mode. It's been a great ESC. It's not a racing class ESC but it sends my VXL past 50mph on grass on 3s and I only added a fan because I had a spare fan and the ESC has a fan output cable (I used gps, police radar, and Hot Wheels Radar gun for speed assessment

!) The ONLY place I have found this model VXL ESC is from RCMart. At $80 for a 200amp constant ESC that is Brushed/Brushless & Sensored/Sensorless AND NO Motor Limit for Any type of motor, I think it may be the best value electronic device Traxxas has to offer (well RCMart has to offer anyway

)! That said you can get everything you need out a Shenzhen Special ESC + BL motor (HobbyWing, HobbyKing, Surpass Hobby, Hobby Star, Hobby Queen, GoolRC, etc... are all Shenzhen Technology CO., LTD.).
The motor while strong, fast and seemingly bulletproof for years now on 3s, is ABSOLUTELY overpriced! As are most of Traxxas Electronics! I mean it's pro prices for basic stuff! Seems strange when the 'non-electric parts pieces' for my Stampede are SO SO CHEAP!
I definitely would NOT agree that the lesser Shenzhen motors or a "No Name Brand motor on eBay" are "Better than Vileneon", while I would never say someone isn't due their opinion, the two Vileneon motors I own have both outlasted & outperformed any no name brand motors I or anyone I know have owned. The lessers are made using weak aluminum refinement tech, crappy epoxy, weak steel, and on and on. They just are not made to the same standards, not even close. Traxxas is still overpriced though! You can get a higher quality Shenzhen from the likes of Surpass or HobbyKing for way less money and meet or exceed quality and performance!
∆[Got my Stampede VXL at GoodWill, New w/o box. It was priced at $100 but I had a "20% off" coupon I had just received for making a donation! So I paid $80!.....'GOODwill HUNTING!']∆