What to get?

[five21racing]

I've been into dirt bikes for 5 years now. (I work on all my stuff too.)
Lately I have been trying to read as much about RC cars/trucks as possible. The tuning of the carb. doesn't seem to be a real troublesome-ordeal to me.

I really like the line Traxxas offers, but what do I know!
I would like to beable to drive the car/truck on my MX track that's at my house. But, I would also like to swap out a different set of tires and take it to the streets in town too.

So0o0o0o...which car/truck would be the best for me?

Thanks guy!:thumbup:

 

[scoobydoo2u]

I own a revo and will soon be buying a savage x ss.
Both savage and revo are very well know trucks and i think you will be happy with either of them if your going for a monster truck.

 

[five21racing]

I own a revo and will soon be buying a savage x ss.
Both savage and revo are very well know trucks and i think you will be happy with either of them..

I've heard of both of them. I don't really want to drop a ton of money and find out I like twisting the throttle alot more then using one finger.

Granted I do ride a dirt bike that has around $7000 into it total, I don't want to get a 'half-ass' truck either.

 

[scoobydoo2u]

I've heard of both of them. I don't really want to drop a ton of money and find out I like twisting the throttle alot more then using one finger.

Granted I do ride a dirt bike that has around $7000 into it total, I don't want to get a 'half-ass' truck either.

Thats totally understandable!
Hmm.. I guess maybe the best thing you could do is go a a local hobby shop because some of them support a "drive me" program to let you see what RC is all about.

 

[five21racing]

Thats totally understandable!
Hmm.. I guess maybe the best thing you could do is go a a local hobby shop because some of them support a "drive me" program to let you see what RC is all about.

Well my brother has a Traxxas Nitro Sport and my dad built (like 10 years ago) an electric car. So I've drove them some before. The nitro truck isn't even close to being broke in so, I really don't know too much what that's all about.

 

[scoobydoo2u]

If your any thing like most of us here you will drive and you will get hooked!

 

[olds97_lss]

Well, IMHO, a revo in it's stock form won't handle the rigors of a 1:1 MX track. With upgraded shocks, arms, servo's, air filter, it isn't bad. The exhaust system kind of sucks as it's prone to damage on rear landings. I wouldn't even bother with a 2.5R revo though. If you get one, get the 3.3. It's longer and has a larger engine. With it being longer, it makes it a more stable runner, especially on big jump tracks/areas.

An old savage 21/25 would hold up pretty good(for the most part), but they are kind of being phased out. The X is taking it's place.

The savage X is a bit weaker than the old savage. It's lowered and parts are lightened a bit for racing, but the X is easier to work on. It has a different trans/diff cases that makes it easier to get at stuff when you blow a gear or something. You don't have to tear half the truck apart to get at a diff.

You could probably find a used savage on eBay for around $300-400 with upgrades. Just steer clear of aluminum arms and ones with integy parts. Integy aluminum looks good, but can't take a beating.

 

[scoobydoo2u]

Well, IMHO, a revo in it's stock form won't handle the rigors of a 1:1 MX track. With upgraded shocks, arms, servo's, air filter, it isn't bad. The exhaust system kind of sucks as it's prone to damage on rear landings. I wouldn't even bother with a 2.5R revo though. If you get one, get the 3.3. It's longer and has a larger engine. With it being longer, it makes it a more stable runner, especially on big jump tracks/areas.

An old savage 21/25 would hold up pretty good(for the most part), but they are kind of being phased out. The X is taking it's place.

The savage X is a bit weaker than the old savage. It's lowered and parts are lightened a bit for racing, but the X is easier to work on. It has a different trans/diff cases that makes it easier to get at stuff when you blow a gear or something. You don't have to tear half the truck apart to get at a diff.

You could probably find a used savage on eBay for around $300-400 with upgrades. Just steer clear of aluminum arms and ones with integy parts. Integy aluminum looks good, but can't take a beating.

:goodpost: Even though I have never broken a part of the exaust i have heard of many that have from bad landings..
But for the most part i think you will be happy with the revo or the savage.

I guess i would have to say Revo takes a beating but i have seen some savages that should be in pieces from such a bad wreck and they just drive away!

 

[five21racing]

Well, IMHO, a revo in it's stock form won't handle the rigors of a 1:1 MX track. With upgraded shocks, arms, servo's, air filter, it isn't bad. The exhaust system kind of sucks as it's prone to damage on rear landings. I wouldn't even bother with a 2.5R revo though. If you get one, get the 3.3. It's longer and has a larger engine. With it being longer, it makes it a more stable runner, especially on big jump tracks/areas.

I guess I can't see myself trying a 60 foot tripple with a $500 toy.

These jumps seem to be too big for RC to me??

A jump like this is the type I would probably try jumping.

BTW, that track is at my house. I don't even race motocross either. :LoL:

 

[olds97_lss]

I've had a few trucks that could handle about 8 feet of air under them and 30 feet of distance as long as I landed on the wheels... Granted, they couldn't take that kind of punishment all day long, but it's still cool.

4-5 feet of air under it and the savage/revo can hold up quite a long time. It's the bad landings that kill you.

I'm going to have the opportunity to run at an indoor MX track tomorrow (I hope). It will be the first time I've been to a MX track. I've been to a BMX track a few times and it was a blast. Even when running alone.

I sold my savage to the guy that got us access to the track. We have it accessible pretty much whenever during the spring/summer/fall. The owner of the track said winter is when the place gets busy, so I doubt we will go in the winter.

If we do get to run on the track, I'll let you know how a really hopped up savage, hopped up revo, hopped up aftershock and pretty much stock muggy and LST2 holds up. I'll try and remember my camera to take some pics as well.

BTW, your track looks like it would be a blast... with RC or a MX!

 

[digger]

You will be addicted in no time. These little "toys" are a blast. A lot tougher than you would think. Here is a classic. http://www.rcuvideos.com/item/HLQ3LZCCF3S6D1S4 Check out a few of these vids. http://www.trilordy.com/videos.html You will be doing some wrenching though. All part of the hobby.

 

[five21racing]

I've had a few trucks that could handle about 8 feet of air under them and 30 feet of distance as long as I landed on the wheels... Granted, they couldn't take that kind of punishment all day long, but it's still cool.

4-5 feet of air under it and the savage/revo can hold up quite a long time. It's the bad landings that kill you.

I'm going to have the opportunity to run at an indoor MX track tomorrow (I hope). It will be the first time I've been to a MX track. I've been to a BMX track a few times and it was a blast. Even when running alone.

I sold my savage to the guy that got us access to the track. We have it accessible pretty much whenever during the spring/summer/fall. The owner of the track said winter is when the place gets busy, so I doubt we will go in the winter.

If we do get to run on the track, I'll let you know how a really hopped up savage, hopped up revo, hopped up aftershock and pretty much stock muggy and LST2 holds up. I'll try and remember my camera to take some pics as well.

BTW, your track looks like it would be a blast... with RC or a MX!

Def. be sure to take the camera along. Would a Revo 3.3 be much harder to tune then a 2.5r?

You will be addicted in no time. These little "toys" are a blast. A lot tougher than you would think. Here is a classic. http://www.rcuvideos.com/item/HLQ3LZCCF3S6D1S4 Check out a few of these vids. http://www.trilordy.com/videos.html You will be doing some wrenching though. All part of the hobby.

That's an insane jump!! I think I would really enjoy working on something like that though. So I think by mid-june, I'll go out and buy one.

 

[scoobydoo2u]

Def. be sure to take the camera along. Would a Revo 3.3 be much harder to tune then a 2.5r?



That's an insane jump!! I think I would really enjoy working on something like that though. So I think by mid-june, I'll go out and buy one.

From what I've heard the 3.3 is much easier to tune then the 2.5R.

 

[ImBroken]

A savage should have no problems handling those jumps. Learning to jump is the same principles as a dirtbike.
Gas on = Nose up
Brake on = Nose down

If you really want to do it right the first time, pick up an HPI 5B...

Here's a pic of my 1/8th scale buggy catching probably 15ft of air. After about the 5th time, I blew out a shock in the rear, and managed to break a wing. They hold up pretty damn good...

 

[five21racing]

I'm always amazed how these things can take a beating and keep on going. I guess I'm going to go with the Revo 3.3. I want to stay in the 1/10th crowd.

 

[AC48]

You said you want to take the car to the streets too in your first post. If you want to catch big air and take it to the streets with a tire change your best bet is a 1/8 Buggy. As in ImBroken's pics, buggies can get a LOT of air, and will handle those jumps if you lad right. Throw on some street tires and buggies handle pretty nicely on the road.

A good cheap place to start is the XTM XT-2. Its a full RTR Buggy for under 300 bucks, and is a very durable buggy. Parts are cheap too.

 

[five21racing]

You said you want to take the car to the streets too in your first post. If you want to catch big air and take it to the streets with a tire change your best bet is a 1/8 Buggy. As in ImBroken's pics, buggies can get a LOT of air, and will handle those jumps if you lad right. Throw on some street tires and buggies handle pretty nicely on the road.

A good cheap place to start is the XTM XT-2. Its a full RTR Buggy for under 300 bucks, and is a very durable buggy. Parts are cheap too.

How much suspension travel does it have? From looking at the pictures, Here, it looks like the Revo3.3 would have much more. :seeing_stars:

 

[olds97_lss]

Driving a buggy on a MX track may be a problem if the track is rough/rutted. They sit pretty low to the ground.

I bashed my aftershock at the MX track yesterday for 5 hours. Never pulled the camera out though...

I broke 2 turnbuckles and bent one shock. I was bashing hard. The jumps didn't give you a lot of air, but they did give you a lot of speed and long distance. It was fairly rough compaired to the BMX track I've been to. The AS with losi zombie maxx tires did a really good job soaking up the rough stuff and holding it's line.

The upgrades I have are RPM arms, lunsford turnbuckles in the upper arms, custom roll bar, LST2 shocks in the back, stock plastic in the front (I bent a front one) and a HPI Polished tuned pipe. I also did the trans mod to get some speed back from running smaller than stock tires. I run about neck and neck with my friends LST2.

The revo 3.3 won't be any harder/easier to tune than the 2.5R. The OS 18TM will fit into both and is a very powerful/stable replacement for either the 2.5R or 3.3. It has just a little bit less power than the 3.3, but the power curve is much smoother and doesn't drop off so bad.

 

[AC48]

The buggy surely does not have the suspension travel the Revo does, and it will bottom out on the the landings. If the track is smooth though, the buggy can hand that air just fine. They can take the hard landings if you land on the wheels. They also fly higher and longer than MTs.

My main point is that you said you wanted to take your car onto the street, and the best off road rig to take to the streets is a 1/8 buggy imo. The savage or revo or any of those trucks are horrible on road compared to a buggy.

 

[five21racing]

The buggy surely does not have the suspension travel the Revo does, and it will bottom out on the the landings. If the track is smooth though, the buggy can hand that air just fine. They can take the hard landings if you land on the wheels. They also fly higher and longer than MTs.

My main point is that you said you wanted to take your car onto the street, and the best off road rig to take to the streets is a 1/8 buggy imo. The savage or revo or any of those trucks are horrible on road compared to a buggy.

I always drag my track with the drag built to be pulled behind our 4 wheeler. So it's usually pretty smooth.

What makes the savage or revo so bad on the road? I guess I should have made it a bit more clear, I will be about 80% dirt, 20% highway.