Scx 10.3 questions/help

[eazycheeze]

Hey guys recently got into rc and looking at upgrading my receiver as id like more channels for winch, 2 speed and lights.

Currently have a scx 10 .3 with a 2.1 spmxse1040rx.

Looking at the radiolink rc6gs 7channel with r7fg receiver. I dont know much so looking for help.

Will this receiver work with a winch? Heard sometimes with gyro it just pulses the winch and not constant?

Now i have a 30t brushed motor and I'm not sure if i should stay with brushed or if i should go with brushless , what motor and esc to get?

If i stay with brushed what esc will work, i believe its a 40a esc currently.

Currently this setup has a capacitor plugged into one of the aux ports. Will i need this with new electronics or its not needed?

Lastly will my spektrum dig servo work with the new electronics?

I will need a micro servo for my 2 speed as well but heard spektrum is pricey for nothing.

Thanks for everything guys! Learning!

 

[Beer_Goggles_RC]

Hey guys recently got into rc and looking at upgrading my receiver as id like more channels for winch, 2 speed and lights.

Currently have a scx 10 .3 with a 2.1 spmxse1040rx.

Looking at the radiolink rc6gs 7channel with r7fg receiver. I dont know much so looking for help.

Will this receiver work with a winch? Heard sometimes with gyro it just pulses the winch and not constant?

Now i have a 30t brushed motor and I'm not sure if i should stay with brushed or if i should go with brushless , what motor and esc to get?

If i stay with brushed what esc will work, i believe its a 40a esc currently.

Currently this setup has a capacitor plugged into one of the aux ports. Will i need this with new electronics or its not needed?

Lastly will my spektrum dig servo work with the new electronics?

I will need a micro servo for my 2 speed as well but heard spektrum is pricey for nothing.

Thanks for everything guys! Learning!

Rc6gs is a great tx and yes the r7fg work with it. I started out with the rc4gs and it was a great transmitter. Be sure to read through the manual to understand all of the many functions it can provide so that you can get full use out of it. Also the manual can be essential for programming the Tx.

Yes you can program this to to operate a winch using channel 6 which is factory programmed to the SWC 3 way switch. This switch can provide reel in, off, and reel out positions.

The gyro should only effect channel 1 (steering) and can even be turned off at the receiver. Possibly can be programmed to other channels but I wouldn't worry about that.

As far as motor and ESC combo, id wait for one of our crawler experts to drop by for some recommendations. @WickedFog or maybe @Doom! could probably point you in the right direction.

The capacitor can be used to help slightly boost the BEC capacity and can also protect the ESC from over voltage if the motor is spinning freely and acting as a generator. I would install it on the new receiver unless you upgrade to an esc that has built in capacitors.

Spectrum dig servo should work fine with your new electronics. Just need to make sure your ESC can provide the proper BEC current that will be needed to operate all the extra channels.

Also as far as the micro servo, will have to wait for another recommendation from one of our crawler guys.

Welcome to the forum!

 

[Beer_Goggles_RC]

On second thought, maybe check out the Hobbywing Quicrun Fusion system. I had one in a Capra and it did pretty good. Idk nuthin about crawling though

 

[WickedFog]

I don't know much other than what I've read here about 1/10 scale stuff. @MVRCA is our 1/10 guru of crawler stuff. 1/24 scale, I can help. But yeah, that Fusion setup has been getting a lot of good feedback. I never knew the Copperhead ESC's were so smooth until MVRCA shared a video on here of one running a rig up an impossible cliff. The reverse was just as smooth as well, which was really impressive. And I loved the sound it made lol.

For servos, I never know what fits until I make one fit. Supposedly, when I built our Ryft, only the stock crappy Spektrum servo that came in the RTR would fit. I made a Hitec fit that is a much better shift servo. If you can find a Hitec that'll fit, they're great. There are lots of other brands out there nowadays than I can keep up with. If you wanna spend a little more, check out Reefs and NSDRC.

 

[eazycheeze]

Ok thabk you guys very much. Just what i needed to know. I heard good stuff about radio link and i seen all the little features rhat make it a game changer for a low price. Although i will miss the battery charge status on my spektrum remote i
To have more channels and better remote for a cheap price is worth it. Especially considering the rugged is over 400$ canadian 6 channel spektrum and the non rugged is still like 250-300.

Really all i need confirmation on now is what esc for my 30t brushed should i get. Does it matter, i see lots of options and if i match the current 40A it should connect to any receiver? Just the 3 pin from receiver to esc? Also i have the spektrum connector ends. Hoping i can score a esc with ic connect or whatever the blue one is so it interconnects.

Sorry for the noob questions still learning. Just finished a 8 hour maintenance . 1 seized bearing thats about it. I hit water mud snow and sand all the time aha.

Also whats a swnsored brushless vs non sensored whats better?

 

[Beer_Goggles_RC]

Ok thabk you guys very much. Just what i needed to know. I heard good stuff about radio link and i seen all the little features rhat make it a game changer for a low price. Although i will miss the battery charge status on my spektrum remote i
To have more channels and better remote for a cheap price is worth it. Especially considering the rugged is over 400$ canadian 6 channel spektrum and the non rugged is still like 250-300.

Really all i need confirmation on now is what esc for my 30t brushed should i get. Does it matter, i see lots of options and if i match the current 40A it should connect to any receiver? Just the 3 pin from receiver to esc? Also i have the spektrum connector ends. Hoping i can score a esc with ic connect or whatever the blue one is so it interconnects.

If you're looking to get a high end transmitter I would recommend flysky or futaba over spectrum. Although if you run all spectrum electronics they really do work together quite nicely.

Yes, any 40a+ brushed ESC should be plug and play. You will need to calibrate your throttle and may even need to reverse the channel but that's easy.

If you have a blue connector I'm guessing it's likely an EC3

If you're not comfortable with soldering on a different connectors you can also use adapters such as an EC3 to xt60 or whatever you may need. They can work well in low amp situations but once you get to higher current draws they may cause thing like voltage drop and excessive amp draw. But they will work well for a brushed crawler

 

[eazycheeze]

@Beer_Goggles_RC

Thanks for the reply!

Currently i have 1 spektrum esc for dig. All my connectors on battery are the spektrum orange connectors which i think connect to the blues. But i solder so no problem to replace.

For calibration and reversing, that can be done on the remote controller right?

For the remote controller yes i am not going to spektrum as its too pricey to have a bttery indicator however its nice.

I found this 7 channel fly sky

FS-G7P 7 with fs-r7p receiver. Do you think this is better than the radiolink rc6gs 7channel with r7fg receiver.​

Pricing is the same.

For esc and brushed is it worth it too go to brushless and grt a 2 in 1 esc and brushless? I'm not crazy rc guy i just trail and play. If i were to go to brushless what does a 30t brushed compare to in brushless (kv)? So many options!

And whats sensored brushless vs non sensored, whats better or less hassle

Thank you

 

[Beer_Goggles_RC]

@Beer_Goggles_RC

Thanks for the reply!

Currently i have 1 spektrum esc for dig. All my connectors on battery are the spektrum orange connectors which i think connect to the blues. But i solder so no problem to replace.

For calibration and reversing, that can be done on the remote controller right?

For the remote controller yes i am not going to spektrum as its too pricey to have a bttery indicator however its nice.

I found this 7 channel fly sky

FS-G7P 7 with fs-r7p receiver. Do you think this is better than the radiolink rc6gs 7channel with r7fg receiver.​

Pricing is the same.

For esc and brushed is it worth it too go to brushless and grt a 2 in 1 esc and brushless? I'm not crazy rc guy i just trail and play. If i were to go to brushless what does a 30t brushed compare to in brushless (kv)? So many options!

And whats sensored brushless vs non sensored, whats better or less hassle

Thank you

Calibration will be done at the ESC with channel reversing is done on the transmitter. Both are an easy process

A lot of guys here will take the flysky all day

That 1200kv hobbywing fusion with be a significantly better performer than a 30t brushed motor. Much more power and I believe it's even 3s capable which means significantly more power

Sensored brushless motors are much much smoother and I think many would say even necessary for crawling. Basically the sensor keeps the motor from stuttering at low rpms. But that's not a problem with brushed motors

 

[eazycheeze]

Calibration will be done at the ESC with channel reversing is done on the transmitter. Both are an easy process

A lot of guys here will take the flysky all day

That 1200kv hobbywing fusion with be a significantly better performer than a 30t brushed motor. Much more power and I believe it's even 3s capable which means significantly more power

Sensored brushless motors are much much smoother and I think many would say even necessary for crawling. Basically the sensor keeps the motor from stuttering at low rpms. But that's not a problem with brushed motors

For esc calibration does that mean i need a esc calibration programmer?

Good to know il compare the 2.
I heard brushed are better for water any proof to that? As in more waterproof which i dont see how thats possible as brushless should be the top tier for water.

Good to know so opt for brushless sensored if i get brushless. And to confirm. The more kv the faster and less troque? And the lower is more torqye less speed? How would i know when i should upgrade my stock diff and transmission gears? Or is that a whole other ball game too explain? 30t is plenty fast on 2 speed and pretty torquy. I've bent axles popping wheelings already oops.

Also i run only 3s batteries so il need to mame sure its compatible.

As for the esc how do i know it can provide enough power for my 7 channels? Winch lights steering dig and 2 speed servo. Though 2 of the servos are only momentarily when needed. So bec current i guess?

 

[WickedFog]

I forgot to mention a radio. If you are adventurous, there is the Radiomaster MT12. They have a Discord channel with EdgeTX developers and such hanging out in it, and other users you can ask for help if need be. The radio can do all kinds of crazy cool stuff. But it has a bit of a learning curve. Check out some of the videos I shared.
https://www.rctalk.com/forum/threads/anybody-have-the-radiomaster-mt12.142925/

This one really shows you how complex your programming can get. It also shows you how cool some of the stuff is you can do with this radio.

 

[Lostinthewoods86]

The rc6gs does have telemetry to give you battery status, you need to get the r8fg receiver though . We got the g7p too, it is easier to set up for a dummy like me.

 

[WickedFog]

The rc6gs does have telemetry to give you battery status, you need to get the r8fg receiver though . We got the g7p too, it is easier to set up for a dummy like me.

But, but... but, the MT12 has a voice that talks to you. And you can upload new voice files into it. So you could pull the throttle and have Homer Simpson go "WOOHOO!". No, I'm not kidding

 

[Lostinthewoods86]

it is easier to set up for a dummy like me.

Did you even read the whole post

 

[eazycheeze]

The rc6gs does have telemetry to give you battery status, you need to get the r8fg receiver though . We got the g7p too, it is easier to set up for a dummy like me.

So the r8fg has battery status?

Thank you

But, but... but, the MT12 has a voice that talks to you. And you can upload new voice files into it. So you could pull the throttle and have Homer Simpson go "WOOHOO!". No, I'm not kidding

Now i have to browse this lmao

 

[DavidB1126]

So the r8fg has battery status?

Yes, if you use the telemetry cable it comes with it
It comes with a XT60 to XT60 with a JST split off, the JST plugs into the telemetry port on the Rx.

But I do agree with @WickedFog , the MT12 is a great radio. But nothing wrong with flysky.

Radiolink is "ok" but has the worst customer service I experienced. Tell me all about their issues. Radiolink 4GS and 6GS V3 radios are "ok". Their older V2s/V1s were trash with issues. All their other electronics have major issues.

But with me switching over to flysky and futaba, I ain't looking back. Might actually consider getting the MT12 in the future if I ever get more into the programming and long range side.

 

[Lostinthewoods86]

So the r8fg has battery status?

Thank you


Now i have to browse this lmao

Yes it does

Yes, if you use the telemetry cable it comes with it
It comes with a XT60 to XT60 with a JST split off, the JST plugs into the telemetry port on the Rx.

That’s not the only way you can cut that off and solder it on whatever you have

 

[eazycheeze]

Thanks guys!

So couple questions left.

Think I'm leaning to the fusion se however should i go to 1800kv over 1200kv? 1200kv seems like a great crawler but very slow speed.


How would i know when i should upgrade my stock diff and transmission gears and portals? Its a scx 10.3 Or is that a whole other ball game too explain? 30t is plenty fast on 2 speed and pretty torquy. I've bent axles popping wheelings already oops.

Also i run only 3s batteries so il need to mame sure its compatible.
As for the esc how do i know it can provide enough power for my 7 channels? Winch lights steering dig and 2 speed servo. Though 2 of the servos are only momentarily when needed. So bec current i guess?

And i use spektrum batteries so this telemetry wont work unless i solder new ends

Read a bit more that ic3 and xt60 work as ec3 works with xt60 so people had pictures with ic3 in xt60. May work may break center balance pin will see.

 

[WickedFog]

Did you even read the whole post

Yeah lol. I think pretty soon I am going to grab that MT12, just to play with it and learn it and show folks what we can do with it. But I'd be learning myself.

Thanks guys!

So couple questions left.

Think I'm leaning to the fusion se however should i go to 1800kv over 1200kv? 1200kv seems like a great crawler but very slow speed.


How would i know when i should upgrade my stock diff and transmission gears and portals? Its a scx 10.3 Or is that a whole other ball game too explain? 30t is plenty fast on 2 speed and pretty torquy. I've bent axles popping wheelings already oops.

Also i run only 3s batteries so il need to mame sure its compatible.
As for the esc how do i know it can provide enough power for my 7 channels? Winch lights steering dig and 2 speed servo. Though 2 of the servos are only momentarily when needed. So bec current i guess?

I don't even see a BEC spec called out for the Fusion SE. Your LED's won't pull much current though. Do you have one standard servo and a couple micros in that kit? I'm not familiar with it, but you could run an external BEC. Maybe grab this one, which I would think would be plenty, but they do make bigger BEC's. But all your servos won't be running and hitting max amps at the same time anyway.

 

[Beer_Goggles_RC]

Yeah lol. I think pretty soon I am going to grab that MT12, just to play with it and learn it and show folks what we can fo with it. But I'd be learning myself.


I don't even see a BEC spec called out for the Fusion SE. Your LED's won't pull much current though. Do you have one standard servo and a couple micros in that kit? I'm not familiar with it, but you could run an external BEC. Maybe grab this one, which I would think would be plenty, but they do make bigger BEC's. But all your servos won't be running and hitting max amps at the same time anyway.

Do the winches use a different power supply?

 

[eazycheeze]

Yeah lol. I think pretty soon I am going to grab that MT12, just to play with it and learn it and show folks what we can do with it. But I'd be learning myself.


I don't even see a BEC spec called out for the Fusion SE. Your LED's won't pull much current though. Do you have one standard servo and a couple micros in that kit? I'm not familiar with it, but you could run an external BEC. Maybe grab this one, which I would think would be plenty, but they do make bigger BEC's. But all your servos won't be running and hitting max amps at the same time anyway.

No have 2 tail lights and 2 headlights. Thatd take maybe an amp if that i figure who knows aha. Later id add underglow rock lights. But i have a spektrum micro servo for dig. I need 1 more for 2 speed both of those are only on when i stop and flick them so no steering servo woukd be used. And its less than a second to activate then off. Only lights and steering and when i need the winch. But i can turn off the lights if needed. Not sure winch draw is.

My steering servo is bigger than the micro thats all i know without tesring it out

Do the winches use a different power supply?

Nope was told the receiver can handle them i hope