Kyosho Mini Inferno

[alpinehyperlite]

Ok, so i had traded my Rustler for a Kyosho Mini Inferno, and as i had said, my rustler was in NEW condition. I got shafted in the trade. The Inferno came with some Ghetto batteries, the negative lead from the motor to the ESC was very sheistly soldered on, and there was just no positive lead from the motor to the ESC, the Reciever was just flopping around.

So i figure since i have already been screwed, I might as well start from scratch with this thing. What do yall think i should do to it?
Oh yea, its this one:
http://eurotrains.com/detail.asp?Product_ID=KYOSHO_30123bcb

 

[CharliesTheMan]

Oh wow, I didn't know much about the mini inferno. It looks like it might be an EXCELLENT candidate for a scaler project. You could get a more scale body of a US military vehicle, but something that I thought would be cool for you would be a SWAT scaler. I haven't seen one done before. I don't know the name of the vehicle that I'm trying to explain, but it's used by SWAT and tactical teams around the country. The ones that I have seen are black, and they look like a cross between a hummer and an army tank. They often use the, in situations with an armed gunman to bring the negotiator in close to the suspect, while keeping them safe. They can also get in close to get a good shot without worrying about being shot at. I gotta go to work, but I'll send you some pics of what I'm trying to explain when I get home. I just thought you might like it since you seem to like police themed vehicles.

If you don't want to do a scaler, you could convert it to the mini inferno buggy I think, because it says that it's the same chassis.

If you don't like either of those ideas, you could sell it to me. I would be very interested in buying it.

Here's some info that I found on it.
http://www.kyosho.com/eng/products/rc/detail.html?product_id=100259

 

[Mattyfats420]

i actually have a mini inferno myself. i got it a little while back and put in on the back burner and totally forgot about it. its a really great truck if you do it right. i got my mine for really cheap and it was pretty much all hooked up from the get go. i could snap some pics if you need to get some ideas how you want to go with it.

 

[alpinehyperlite]

Yea, if you got some upgrade stuff for it, and what batteries u use, and all that. He sent these batteries that were 2 cell's and they were like 3.5 inces long each. A123 or somthing he called em, i dont wana screw with that. just wana do new motor and batteries and stuff.

Oh, and we just got our new swat truck on friday. Its basicly a ford F-550 with 2inch thick steel/kevlar body, and 1.5inch bullet proof "glass" Quite beautiful. And that sounds like a pretty good project. Have to look into it.

 

[alpinehyperlite]

Also, I've heard of scaler, but what exactly does it take to make a vehicle "scale"

 

[CharliesTheMan]

A scale vehicle is usually classified as kind of a trail/crawler. The main reason for this is because it uses straight axle housings like a crawler, because it's a scaled down version of a real vehicle. Where a crawler has certain modifications done to make it a crawler, such as chassis design, big shocks with external springs, link bars, things like that which are there for the main reason of making it a better crawler, a scale truck has one main objective, and that is to make it as realistic as possible. It will have a chassis that looks similar to a real truck chassis, suspension that looks as realistic as possible, and all of the electronics, servos, things like that are completely hidden. You can take a picture of a good scaler and most people will think it's a picture of a full size truck. Scalers usually have one level or another of custom work, from things in like back of the truck like Rolex's truckling project, to scaled down "Rancho" decals on the suspension. So basically with a scaler it's all about the details, and people often use hard plastic bodies because they look so much more realistic than the lexan bodies. Scalers can be cars, trucks, campers, anything that is built as realistic as possible so that it's hard to tell it's an RC and not a full size vehicle. You can go to the scaler section of rccrawlers.com and see some projects. NCNitro is building a scaler jeep tubar in the projects section, and take a look at the details such as the scale wheels and locking hubs, the interior, and the bungee cords and fire extenguisher.

Here's a link to a really nice scaler kit where you can see the intricate details.
http://rc4wdstore.com/product_info.php?cPath=31&products_id=637

A popular place that many people start for scalers is the Hi-Lux and brusier chassis
http://www.tamiyausa.com/product/item.php?product-id=58397

http://www.tamiyausa.com/product/item.php?product-id=58372

Now of course you're chassis wont be scale, but that's just to give you an idea. The body on yours is what would give you the scaler project, and you could get another one or modify that one to make it look just like the SWAT vehicles, and use clay and styrene, things like that, to make all of the details.

 

[alpinehyperlite]

This thing wont take much to look like a real one then. Its pretty damn detailed. It surprised me when i opened the box and i was excited. Then i took off the lid and was dissapointed. Soooo imma redo everything under the "hood". I really like the "armored" wheel covers.

 

[CharliesTheMan]

Yeap, I think the body is a great starting point, and then you can take a look at the real armored vehicles and start working out the details. You can get some very realistic tires from RC4WD. I think the rock crushers http://rc4wdstore.com/product_info.php?cPath=36&products_id=714, or the rock stompers might look pretty good on those wheels for that vehicle http://rc4wdstore.com/product_info.php?cPath=36&products_id=677.

It will definitely need a winch http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/showthread.php?t=106163

You can also modify a 645 MG servo to operate a winch, but I haven't done it yet. I'm getting ready to order my axles for my scaler project today, so soon I will probably be building a winch.

 

[alpinehyperlite]

The problem with this thing is its 1/16 scale. so those tires would be HUGE on it.

 

[CharliesTheMan]

Well there's plenty of others. Some of the best tires that I've seen on scalers come from toys and models in the toy department at places like Wal-Mart and Target. It's going to take some creativity, but you could have a really fun long term projects, and who knows, it may just get put on display at one of the national SWAT competition or conventions.

 

[alpinehyperlite]

OK so i finally broke down and went LIPO!! I got a 2S lipo 1320 mAh, adn a parkzone 2-3 cell Li-Po balancing carger. Charger only ran me $35 and it balances and charges. Score. Imma try it in my mini inferno and in the Axial. Hopefully it wont blow up and kill me. (sigh) We shall see. If yall dont hear from me for a few days, ill b in the hospital for my battery burns. Lata imma go try it.

 

[CharliesTheMan]

Aw man it's all much easier than everyone makes it out to be. And I paid more for some of my stick packs than I did for some of my LiPos. It's really going to set off that axial, get ready for some serious torque twist. If the Novak setup is producing a lot of torque, you can go with the axial slipper clutch to smooth things out if you want, I'm about to do it with the brushless setup that I have.