Gmade 1/10 Spider GS02F crawler KIT suggestions

[332_RC]

This Gmade GM57014 1/10 GS02F Spider with Portal Axles, has caught my eye. Been wanting a 1/10 crawler & the VDR stance is awesome, but always out of stock. The TA Element Ecto gets my attention too. But this is a builder. It's a kit & needs electronics. 540/550 motor, ESC, (2) servos=one for the CMS steering & one for the 2spd gearbox, & a 3 channel radio. Thing looks incredible & the videos, it conquers crawling exceptionally well & in high gear, looks like it will have some fun. I want waterproof components. I have some land I can go run it on, that has any obstacles, water, & rocks-logs, etc.
Any suggestions for the motor Turns & servo type? ESCs?? It's a forward mounted motor. Brushless or brushed? I'd prefer lipo battery. And I can't find any battery dimensions it can take. Is that a modular design with it?

 

[Chubaka]

Sweet looking ride. Turns depends on two things.... what your trying to accomplish, and what size pinions fit. The more crawler serious you are, a lower kv. If you want a trail truck a higher kv.

My scx10ii tops out at 22mph. That's because my crawling is scale driving and donuts are fun. Also makes it able to go through mud. I'm running a 2050 or 2250 kv. To hit 22mph I had to slit the motor slots and my motor is on my frame rail so I can run the 22 tooth pinion.

Good luck with the purchase.

 

[332_RC]

I want to crawl with it & get technical if I can, but the hi/lo gearbox is a plus. I'd like to have brushless. But brushed is less expensive. Looks like 50t brushed is a good start or 2000kv brushless.

 

[Tunedfrog]

Good looking rig, looking forward to your mod updates.

 

[332_RC]

I've got my eye on it. If I get it, not sure where to start with the add ons. I'm good at building & modding. My crazy basher K6 4990 is an animal. Bulletproof & blueprinted. But a big crawler is out of my wheelhouse.

 

[332_RC]

This looks like a good combo. Waterproof & drag-brake. Brushless & sensored & no deans connector, has IC3.

 

[Greywolf74]

This looks like a good combo. Waterproof & drag-brake. Brushless & sensored & no deans connector, has IC3.

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Putting Spektrum electronics in a Gmade is like putting an elevator in an outhouse... doesn't belong!

If it were me, Id put something more like this in it.
Holmes Hobbies TorqueMaster BR-XL
TrailMaster Sport 550 45t

or a lot of people are crazy about these too

QuicRun Fusion Pro - 2 in 1 FOC System

 

[332_RC]

Putting Spektrum electronics in a Gmade is like putting an elevator in an outhouse... doesn't belong!

If it were me, Id put something more like this in it.
Holmes Hobbies TorqueMaster BR-XL
TrailMaster Sport 550 45t

or a lot of people are crazy about these too

QuicRun Fusion Pro - 2 in 1 FOC System

Ok I won't

Thanks for the input & links to the cheaper stuff.

This might be a viable option. And it's not a $200 Spektrum combo. Very affordable, yet gold plated terminals. 20t, 16t, or 13t. 80a ESC- Waterproof & Initiative hold brake.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1965021233...q7FPNHENTvG&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=SMS


Might be classified as a escalator not an elevator.

 

[WickedFog]

Ok I won't

Thanks for the input & links to the cheaper stuff.

This might be a viable option. And it's not a $200 Spektrum combo. Very affordable, yet gold plated terminals. 20t, 16t, or 13t. 80a ESC- Waterproof & Initiative hold brake.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1965021233...q7FPNHENTvG&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=SMS


Might be classified as a escalator not an elevator.

I would definitely try to go with the Hobbywing Fusion Pro. All the talk on it says it's about as good as it gets.

 

[332_RC]

Gotta 2100kv or a 2300kv. Nice options & affordable. Can't go wrong with HW.
The AXE PRO(many kv's available) is supported by the HW V2 app, I already have, because of my other HW system.

These are the ones you recommend?

https://www.hobbywingdirect.com/col...ucts/quicrun-fusion-se?variant=40597819719795

https://www.hobbywingdirect.com/col...cts/quicrun-fusion-pro?variant=40105176760435

https://www.hobbywingdirect.com/col...un-axe-combo-r3-1-10th?variant=41801735471219

Thank you for your kind response.

 

[MVRCA]

Hmmmm,

I'd go with the Castle Slate 1900kV combo.

https://www.castlecreations.com/en/1-10th-scale-1/castle-1406-sensored-motor-1900kv-060-0068-00

If it were only crawling, then the Fusion Pro is a solid choice, but I have found that the Slate / Copperhead 10 combo has a wider range of performance. We run them on our 1.9" class of U4 Rock Racers.

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[332_RC]

Hmmmm,

I'd go with the Castle Slate 1900kV combo.

https://www.castlecreations.com/en/1-10th-scale-1/castle-1406-sensored-motor-1900kv-060-0068-00

If it were only crawling, then the Fusion Pro is a solid choice, but I have found that the Slate / Copperhead 10 combo has a wider range of performance. We run them on our 1.9" class of U4 Rock Racers.

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Great advice! And those Castle systems look really good. I'll read up on them some more. I'm after mostly crawling. The 2spd gearbox could get some rock bouncing in, but I wouldn't want to overkill the chassis or components, but have the capability.
Thank you.

 

[WickedFog]

Gotta 2100kv or a 2300kv. Nice options & affordable. Can't go wrong with HW.
The AXE PRO(many kv's available) is supported by the HW V2 app, I already have, because of my other HW system.

These are the ones you recommend?

https://www.hobbywingdirect.com/col...ucts/quicrun-fusion-se?variant=40597819719795

https://www.hobbywingdirect.com/col...cts/quicrun-fusion-pro?variant=40105176760435

https://www.hobbywingdirect.com/col...un-axe-combo-r3-1-10th?variant=41801735471219

Thank you for your kind response.

Of those three, I would go with the middle one. But MVRCA has way more crawling experience than I do, so he'll set ya straight.

 

[MVRCA]

So here's my take on this, but I like to run the lowest KV possible in any motor. It's easy to gear up when needed, but it also allows you to run a higher voltage without having crazy wheel speed. A 1900 kv on 4s, geared low, has all kinds of bottom-end torque without running terribly warm. It's also more efficient, allowing you to run smaller batteries. If you do this setup and run 4s, you can probably use a inexpensive drone battery in the 1000 mAh range and get more than a hour of crawling / trail time. It will also run fine on 3s.

We run the 2280 on 3s for our Gatekeeper U4 truck, and it's as much speed and power as we could hope for, but it's not quite a creepy-slow as the 1900 on 3s.

The platform you are looking at strikes me as an "all afternoon" adventuring rig, and it looks like quite a bit of fun. I'd opt for something with a stand-alone ESC for thermal issues, and 1900 Slate combo with a 1500 mAh 4s battery, and you're gonna be good all afternoon with just two batteries. It will run smooth, cool, and never let you down on performance be it slow crawling or a bit of trail buzzing..

Good luck and keep us in the loop!

Of those three, I would go with the middle one. But MVRCA has way more crawling experience than I do, so he'll set ya straight.

Agree, of those choices, go with the Fusion pro.

 

[332_RC]

Thank you, @MVRCA & @WickedFog
Quite a wealth of information there for the crawler setup & battery information too. That's what I needed. It gets hot here in GA, could always add a fan(run off the battery), the chassis has a provision over the motor mount, & go with the Fusion Pro, for starters, & not break the budget. I like the kit & enjoy building.
Thanks fellas

 

[WickedFog]

So here's my take on this, but I like to run the lowest KV possible in any motor. It's easy to gear up when needed, but it also allows you to run a higher voltage without having crazy wheel speed. A 1900 kv on 4s, geared low, has all kinds of bottom-end torque without running terribly warm. It's also more efficient, allowing you to run smaller batteries. If you do this setup and run 4s, you can probably use a inexpensive drone battery in the 1000 mAh range and get more than a hour of crawling / trail time. It will also run fine on 3s.

We run the 2280 on 3s for our Gatekeeper U4 truck, and it's as much speed and power as we could hope for, but it's not quite a creepy-slow as the 1900 on 3s.

The platform you are looking at strikes me as an "all afternoon" adventuring rig, and it looks like quite a bit of fun. I'd opt for something with a stand-alone ESC for thermal issues, and 1900 Slate combo with a 1500 mAh 4s battery, and you're gonna be good all afternoon with just two batteries. It will run smooth, cool, and never let you down on performance be it slow crawling or a bit of trail buzzing..

Good luck and keep us in the loop!


Agree, of those choices, go with the Fusion pro.

That's a very interesting take on things. I never would have thought about running that kinda setup and using drone batteries.

So, with that castle setup, how well is the slow craw with that compared to the FOC stuff? I've seen the FOC equipped ESC's move the wheels like a slow creep, and I have seen a couple vids about FOC for industrial motor use and a few crawler ones showing how it maintains the same surface speed, even when the torque demand on the motor increases.

I am curious to know your thoughts on the difference between the Castle system you suggested and the Hobbywing or any other FOC equipped system with regards to that and the slow crawling ability of each.

I don't have any 1/10 crawlers, because flat grassy fields aren't so much fun to crawl. But I'd still like to build one some day just to build one.

 

[Greywolf74]

I have the 2 in 1 fusion combo. Super slow crawl. Keeps the torque with no loss of power. . In my Axial 1.9 Capra. .

What pics are you wanting the OP to post exactly? The ones of the Gmade crawler and ESC/Motor combo that he hasn't bought yet? I mean he did post pics of the Gmade that hes thinking about buying soooooo, huh?

 

[blaster27]

Want to see his set up. I was going to post my set up is all. Sorry for the inconvenience. . I will delete my post dude. . Duh ?

 

[332_RC]

 

[Greywolf74]

Want to see his set up. I was going to post my set up is all. Sorry for the inconvenience. . I will delete my post dude. . Duh ?

I'm just sayin', He can't post pics of his "setup". He hasn't bought anything yet.