I looked at those because of price. I decided on a redcat only because the parts ar available just up the street. I later read on another site that redcat and exceed were the same manufacture. Not sure if that is completely true, but I do know they both offer the same body that resembles a semi truck. I saw video on youtube of the madbeast and it was getting a beatdown and looked good to me. I will check to see what engine they both run on the 1:8.