Let me start by saying, I'm not looking for fanboy responses, I'm looking for honest answers from those with actual experience with each vehicle. I recently bought a bunch of vehicles and parts (DHK Hobby Raz-R, Redcat Caldera SC, ECX Circuit, Traxxas Rustler), and, although the Raz-R and the Caldera are pretty much complete, the Rustler and Circuit arent, and, going through the boxes, i have enough parts (although, none of them are actual Traxxas parts, and most are cheap eBay stuff), to either build the Rustler or the Circuit, but, i have had zero experience with either brand, so, I'm looking for pro's and con's to each one. I'm looking not only for how durable they are (if you watch any of the videos i posted here and on the Arrma forum, you will know how hard i am on my vehicles), but, also how well they do in mild snow and winter conditions. I have enough 4WD winter cars (Arrma Granite, DHK Hunter, DHK Raz-R, DHK Wolf 2, Hobby King Quanam Vandal), but, the only 2WD i have is my over built Arrma Fury, and I'm looking for something mainly to play in the snow with, since i wont use the Fury in those conditions. Since this is just going to be to bash every once in awhile in light to moderate snow, I'm looking for something that wont easily break (yes, i know that any RC car breaks easier in the cold), since I'm not looking to spend money constantly on something that ill probably not have after the winter anyway. I have heard good and bad about both vehicles, and also about the whole Traxxas lawsuits and whatnot, but, I'm not looking to buy a brand new car (if i was, i personally would never consider Traxxas), just use what i already have.