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Yea same with me. Only time I order directly from horizon is when they have a really good deals or sales, or when I need a part and I can only find it on there. Which both of those terms are pretty rare to see so...I order directly from Associated or from A-main when I buy my Element Crawlers. No skin off my hide.
They are likely trying to Drive AE's value down so they can buy them up and ruin the company like they have every other company they snatched up.Wow. How shady is that for HH to do that?
They are likely trying to Drive AE's value down so they can buy them up and ruin the company like they have every other company they snatched up.
Will NEVER happen. Never. Thunder Tiger/Team Moo is smarter than that.They are likely trying to Drive AE's value down so they can buy them up and ruin the company like they have every other company they snatched up.

I was thinking about how Associated is branching out into different matkets. They seem to have their sites set on a bunch of HH customers too.Will NEVER happen. Never. Thunder Tiger/Team Moo is smarter than that.![]()
Yeah, but Horizon owning Team Associated AND Team Losi Racing is unethical.I was thinking about how Associated is branching out into different matkets. They seem to have their sites set on a bunch of HH customers too.
AE could not have survived building only race buggies in the US. I think it was the better move to survive the brand and recover from damages with Team Tiger Balm than to just pull the plug.
Clearly our hobby is changing. It will be interesting to see who thrives and who gets sucked under the waves.
I hope it requires the winners to provide us with better products and not just to cheapen products in order to outsell the competition.
I'm SO tired of 'it doesn't last quite as long but its cheaper!' And companies with planned obsolecence by parts discontinuation...
I don't need ANY more shelf queens and WE don't need ANY more landfill!!!
Sell great kits at fair prices with good parts availability... It doesn't seem hard when I read it.... I MUST be missing something.![]()

It seems like they are well one their way to killing TLR already...Yeah, but Horizon owning Team Associated AND Team Losi Racing is unethical.![]()
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It seems like they are well one their way to killing TLR already...
I totally agree! That would be the death of both brands. Horizon can't handle the truth!!!
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Agreed.Psst... I really don't care either way. I've pretty much parted ways with all parties involved/mentioned in this thread.
I don't regret buying the 6.3,its a nice buggy. But I haven't used it either and fear it fading fast.Agreed.
I don't really care that much about any brand.
Just wanted to share to get the notice out.