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Need advice on leaning savage so it will start

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PS you name makes your "info" stick out further than everybody else's......I wish mine was that big :\
 
Lol. It's my username on other forums related to my cars/trucks that I drag race with. It's also my gamer tag so it's just something I always use.
 
Get it hotter ;-) 120 is barely expanding the internals if at all. I raced motocross for 14+ years before getting into RC, and I beat my friggin head against the wall quite a few times before I got the hang of it. My best advice would be to find someone local who is already into Nitro to help you out at the start. Once you get the engine fired up and broken in....the rest is cake. The break in process is by FAR the worst for a newbie. The engines are hard to start, tight, finicky.....all because they are new.

I'd be happy to hop on the phone with you and see if I can help you out though....

Just remember these tips:

1. Preheat the engine as hot as you can get it....or to @ 200-220.
2. Make sure your glow ignitor is FULLY CHARGED
3. Make sure your engine is primed (Cover the exhaust outlet, spin it over until you see fuel enter the carb)
4. Make sure your engine is NOT flooded. If it is, pull out the glow plug, flip over the car/truck and crank it until all the raw fuel is expelled.
5. Make sure your radio is ALWAYS on before you turn the car on
6. Don't be afraid of the needles. If you raced MX, you understand the difference between rich and lean...use that to your advantage!
7. Take a deep breathe and try again ;-)
 
Were still trying to help you because we all know how much of a learning curve is involved learning your first nitro :) Its a PITA now but once you get the hang of it you'll wonder why it was so hard in the beginning :)
 
Well I bumped the idle up and leaned the hsn some today and got to hear my truck run for 5 sec. It's the first time it's cranked. After that it would sound like it was trying to fire and the wheels would turn a little and then it was just the sound of the roto start again. Never fired up again. Think I'm gonna let the LHS show me how to get it running before I break or wear something out. :angry::angry::angry:
 
Your one way bearing may be slipping if all you hear is the roto start. It would be slipping from flooding the engine. The one way bearing connects the roto start plate to the crank shaft. You can pop the plate off the engine, clean the bearing with denatured alcohol, carb and choke cleaner, brake cleaner, ect...
 
Yeah...I hear ya man. Just never expected so much of a curve to even crank the darn thing. There is a private rc shop about 30 min away that is small and personal and I think I'm gonna get the guy to help me out. He is a heli guru but his mechanic had mt's out working on them the other day and knew his stuff. But all they have are Losi and traxxas. I said I had the 4.6 and they said do this and use that but it was over my head. I know one thing, the pinch on this engine is tight when the piston gets near the top. I mean even with the glow out when turning the fly it's tight. At least I know I've got good compression. On the optimistic side it did crank for 5 sec lol.
 
If you hear the piston going, it's probably not the OWB. How much did you lean it out, how far did you adjust the idle screw? It sounds like your still just dealing with the tuning issues of a new engine. I'd stop by the LHS you were talking about and ask for help, if they do a good job don't forget about them when it comes to making purchases. I work on trucks at my LHS and we notice when people come it for help and suggestions but never get their parts from us. You may even get a bashing buddy out of the deal.
 
Would definitely recommend a hobby shop to look at your truck. Maybe buy the guys lunch for helping you out. I don't think its the one way bearing slipping because you are not running a very oily fuel. The way to tell if it is slipping is to see if your flywheel is turning when you go to start it. No flywheel moving means the bearing is slipping. This is the first thing I would check and if its not turning then that's when you need help.
 
Flywheels turning. Everything is working as it should but it just won't crank. I know how to work on real motors so let me try and explain it that way. It's like when you're trying to crank a motor and you hear everything turning over but there's no spark. Every once and a while it will grab some fuel and spark and you hear the combustion from the engine for a few seconds and then it loses that sound and you just hear it turning over again. So you know the battery is good,you know it's getting fuel because you can see it in the carb but it's like the plugs aren't able to fire. If it was a life size motor I'd pull the plugs,check the coil and plug wires,put back and then check the timing.

Now this little nitro has 3 needles and a glow plug. Just confuses me.
 
I think using alkalines in the ignitor is contributing to your trouble. They just don't deliver the current like a quality nimh does. If you're getting fuel, you're lacking heat in the plug.
 
I said it before throw the useless C battery glow warmer in the trash and invest in a good quality rechargable glow warmer.
 

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