need advice on a new purchase.

[vbgagnon]

Don't go with the hellfire. I haven't heard many good things about it.

what I have heard...

diffs leak big time!
front arms are very weak
stock hpi screws are brittle and tend to snap
shock towers are soft and bend easily
out drives wear quickly


These are just to mention a few.



And there is no way in hell that 40 series will make a savage handle like a revo, well maybe a box stock revo but thats a big maybe.

 

[thetmaxxman2016]

what do you mean that a savage can't handle like a revo. but it can be done.

 

[vbgagnon]

It can be done, but it will take some serious cash. You need lcg tvps for sure, I'm not saying it can't be done I'm just saying that swapping 40 series tires will not make it handle like a revo.

 

[Monkey Wrench]

what do you mean that a savage can't handle like a revo. but it can be done.

I think it can be done, I agree, but not simply by putting a different engine, tires and servos in it. The main reason I see (and owning both a Savage and a Revo) is the center of gravity. Savage's sit really, really high, so they are more likely to roll than a Revo.

I do not think anyone argues that a Savage can be made to handle like a Revo, just like a Revo can be upgraded to bash like a Savage. I think the bigger question is, is it worth it. Revo's are practically race ready out of the box, whereas Savage's are bash ready right out of the box.

 

[thetmaxxman2016]

I think it can be done, I agree, but not simply by putting a different engine, tires and servos in it. The main reason I see (and owning both a Savage and a Revo) is the center of gravity. Savage's sit really, really high, so they are more likely to roll than a Revo.

I agree with you , but there is more to than a new engine, tires and servos.
you got to lower the best by like a 2 in.

I do not think anyone argues that a Savage can be made to handle like a Revo, just like a Revo can be upgraded to bash like a Savage. I think the bigger question is, is it worth it. Revo's are practically race ready out of the box, whereas Savage's are bash ready right out of the box.

I believe that it would cost less to make a savage that you all ready have in to a fast racer that to buy a new truck and make it in to a racer. Its just my

You can make any rc go fast with good gearing and torque & wide wheel base, tire traction make I big difference in handling.


Is a 3 speed allowed in racing?

what make a revo handle so much better than a savage that a savage can never match?

 

[olds97_lss]

I couldn't say for sure, but the true progressive suspension of the revo really helps. Also, it's a lot lighter so the power to weight ratio is different in favor of the revo.

Both are a PITA to work on though. At least diff access.

 

[AC48]

Both are a PITA to work on though. At least diff access.

Not the Savage X

 

[thetmaxxman2016]

I couldn't say for sure, but the true progressive suspension of the revo really helps. Also, it's a lot lighter so the power to weight ratio is different in favor of the revo.

Both are a PITA to work on though. At least diff access.

but what I trying to say it that I think that it would be cheaper take a savage that you all ready own and spend $300 to make it in to a racer, then spending 400 or more on a revo.

onder2: In racing is 3 speed Trans allowed?

onder2: One more questions if you take a revo and a savage and upgrade it all the way for speed (big block engine, 3 speeds, fast gearing) with truck would win in an all out race?onder2: Can’t forget the racing is all in the driver’s skill.

I wish I had a track to race at my track was closed down because not enough people where go.

 

[vbgagnon]

Yes you can race with a 3 speed.

I still don't see spending big bucks on a savage to get it to race with the 3 speed, the 3 speed will be more of a pain then anything when racing. shift points and all that stuff. I think that it can be done, but I just can't justify the time or the money.

He wants to buy a new rig and if he is going to race I have to say I would not invest in another savage, I would go with the revo. add $100 to a box stock 3.3 revo and it will do circles around a savage with a 3 speed.

 

[Monkey Wrench]

Yes you can race with a 3 speed.

I still don't see spending big bucks on a savage to get it to race with the 3 speed, the 3 speed will be more of a pain then anything when racing. shift points and all that stuff. I think that it can be done, but I just can't justify the time or the money.

He wants to buy a new rig and if he is going to race I have to say I would not invest in another savage, I would go with the revo. add $100 to a box stock 3.3 revo and it will do circles around a savage with a 3 speed.

I agree, and I have what I consider a "close-to-race-ready" Savage (Wasp .28, 3-speed tranny, THS pipe, 4-spider diffs with HD cups, etc.) and a "race ready" Revo (OS .18TM, FOC, close-ratio gearing, RPM arms, CVEC pipe, etc.) and I know my Revo will beat my Savage in a true 'round the track race 8 times out of 10. Don't get me wrong, I love that Savage, man, and I am brutal on that thing, but for lack of a better term, it's just not 'elegant' on a track. It's more like a bull in a china shop.

I think what's important to keep in mind is that the term "race ready" is a subjective term. I think if you polled those that race regularly (and I am just getting into racing, mind you) they would argue that the Revo 3.3, even stock, IN THEIR OPINION would not be considered "race ready". It can be argued that it takes less effort to make it race ready than it would a stocker Savage.

Now, if I lined up both my Revo and Savage in a straight drag race, same tires, I think the Savage will take the Revo (at least MY Savage would take MY Revo).

Again, I do not think anyone argues that the Savage can be made into a racer, because I think it can be, but if you gave me the same amount of money to invest in each and make them a racer, I think the Revo can be made the better racer of the two.

 

[Badkitty]

all this debate..even AFTER i posted what i aready bought lol