EZ Start system

[docker96]

I have A T-Max that was given to me. I redone from ground up, sharp looking truck NOW, but will not turn over. I put all new electric ez start on it and even just hot wired the starter and still will not turn over. My next step is to pull the engine off and see if possible lock up, I don't know? Sort of trying my mechanic skills from normal cars to RC, which helps but don't solve everything. The last starter system did the same, would not turn the engine over even when it was off did not work. SOOOOOOOOOO I have a great looking T-MAX 2.5r 4 wheel drive , fresh paint and customized," but just sitting there".

 

[cheeseball01]

Is the EZ start system not working? What exactly happens? If the EZ start tries but can't turn the motor over, your starting wand should cut out and go into overload mode. Does it turn the motor over with the plug pulled out? Can you turn the flywheel with your hand? Is this a new motor stuck at TDC?

 

[docker96]

This is the EZ start system 2 and it isn't a new engine. The EZ Start system is brand new and I use a battery to operate the system. The fly wheel is very free with no restriction. On the old system I took the starter off and attached it to a battery and it would not even do anything. I figured the starter was bad so ordered a whole new system from wiring to starter and it is doing the same thing, nothing doesn't even make a sound. I have double checked everything and just don't know.

 

[busdoctor]

Do you get green lights on your wand? Did you do any wire changes on the vehicle connector? I will try to get a picture of my connector over to you.

[From the top left pin clockwise it should be blue, red, black, yellow. Notice the notches on the top. I know it is a bad picture but enough to illustrate.

 

[Rolex]

Is the yellow wire securely grounded at the engine mount?
Is the polarity of the red + and black - correct at the motor? If not, it will not be able to turn against the OWB.
Is the OWB installed in the right direction?

 

[TWOCANE]

Junk it and get a pull start. You also will get a feel (compression and such) for your mill and you no if it has a good tune cause it will fire right up

 

[cptvkirk]

check the OWB

If you installed the new easy start, did you verify the one way bearing was installed correctly. Print on bearing should be toward motor.

Pull easy start, put juice to it and make sure it turns on it's own. Then pull glow plug and turn motor by hand. A shot of WD in the cyl may help this a little.

If both turn independently then put it back together and try it again. If one is not turning. Troubleshoot that system by itself. let us know if you continue to have problems

(ECHOOOO ECHOooo Echoooo)

lol...yeah..i agree with rolex. except i'd try the ez start motor by itself.

 

[docker96]

I will go ahead and try the suggested post, but if I take this thing apart again and don't find anything wrong, I will junk the BRAND NEW SYSTEM and do the pull start. I have read alot of trouble about the EZ start and have checked ALL connectors for match up and the only thing that I can see is that I didn't check the one way bearing, because all parts were free before putting back together. I am also going between the wife and remodeling the kitchen, but thank God almost finished. SOOOOOOOOOOO my brain is about on it's FARTS end LOL!!! I appreciate the response and will get back as soon as possible. Thanks

Docker 96

 

[busdoctor]

ez start

docker96 You said in your original post you had the starter off and tried it and it still didn't turn. That sounds electrical to me. Are you getting both green lights on the wand? And like rolex said make sure the yellow wire has a good secure ground.

 

[Rolex]

The yellow wire is the ground for the glow plug. The blue is the +. The red and black are for the motor. The are independent of each other, but I'm just making sure the whole system is good.
Since you have to remove the start system to check the OWB, while it's off connect the red and black to the motor and hit the button. The motor will spin, even if the polarity is wrong. If it doesn't, then you have a problem with a contact (brush) and need to take care of it. One of the brushes might be stuck and no longer able to slide down the sleeve to make contact with the commutator.

 

[busdoctor]

Rolex you said the yellow wire is only the ground for the glow plug? OK I thought it was the ground for everything. I am still learning myself, thanks.

 

[cheeseball01]

Rolex you said the yellow wire is only the ground for the glow plug? OK I thought it was the ground for everything. I am still learning myself, thanks.

The black wire that hooks the the motor on the EZ start is the ground. If it spins without being hooked to the engine (doing what rolex suggested) and it doesn't while attached to your motor. Is your motor stuck at TDC or jammed up some how?

 

[Rolex]

Rolex you said the yellow wire is only the ground for the glow plug? OK I thought it was the ground for everything. I am still learning myself, thanks.

You have 2 sets of lights on the start wand. One is for the blue/yellow glow plug connection and the other monitors the red/black starter motor connection. Those 2 circuits are independent of each other and that's what allows you to eliminate the blue/yellow and use a hand held igniter.
The first thing to check is whether or not BOTH those lights are on when the button is pressed.
As an example, the glow light is out, it's a sign that you burned out the glow plug.
If the start light is out, there is an incomplete circuit to the starter motor.
None of that is related to the engine, only the starter motor.
With the starter assembly removed from the engine, the wand plugged in, press the button. The motor should spin freely. If not, you need to find out where the circuit is incomplete. Bad connection, bent pin at the plug, stuck brush or lots of dirt in the motor.

 

[nitrobry]

Never could get my REVO started using the blue plug wire.I use a glow starter all the time,No probs with it.

 

[x_doug_x]

i didn't read through every post but let me tell you what happend to the os.12 i have and the traxxas .15, they had been sitting for a long time, neither would turn over, before i pulled the rope and broke it on the os i took it off sprayed wd40 inside the carb and put channel locks on the flywheel, i turned it back and forth lightly, if you turn to much couner clockwise you will break your e/z start, untill finally it freed the motor up, the same was wrong with the traxxas .15.. they sat for a few years and got old gas in the crnakshaft and bearings etc... but when i sprayed the wd40 and turn it it turned over and freed that stuff up... they run good today, but i just pulled the .15 off the t max and i'm trying to put a .18 os tm motor.


if your motor does infact turn over, put 2 wires in a battery and put them on the motor both ways for only a second, see if that does the job. if it does. you obviously have your wires wrong or a battery that's not charged...

if this still doesn't work and you don't hear the motor kicking in, spinning, or anything. you need a new motor for the e z start.

 

[ShelsDad84]

kinda stupid but, do ya got it too rich and its flooded? and just lockin up? prolly not but what happens when ya remove the glow plug and try to turn it over? just a shot in the dark.

BTY,,, I ment my reply was kinda stupid... like I said, "a shot in the dark".