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Ok... they are on a limited income, but yet have over a $1k in gifts for these kids... I don't think they know what limited income is. The most expensive gift I ever received as a kid was a golden arrow buggy from my older brothers who didn't live at home anymore.

Spoiled little bastards. I would have taken all the gifts (not just the 3 top $ ones) and made the kids come with me to the store as I return them... one at a time. Then, I would make them go to the store with me and the wife as they watched us spend their gift money on something we wanted.

I love tools who tell you your being to harsh with "your" kids. That's whats wrong with society today. To many lame punishments.
 
I'm with olds....i was the last of six kids with alcoholic parents and i dont remember a single present near $100
not to say they didnt give me anything fun..lincon logs rule!!!
its unfortunte it had to go this far but now if they dont follow through their kids will OWN them....i dont know if i would take them back though i think the wife and him ought to start playing them....that would burn there ass's
 
LOL
that guy rocks
and that whiney shrink can go suck eggs
I was an only child w/ a single mom....my dad was a weekend dad
Every year my presents were based on how well I did in school....and even then the most I got was the millenium Falcon (24.99) for Christmas......When I wanted a bike my dad and I went trash collecting until we had a few bikes and then we built one.....I thought it was gonna suck but it was better than all my friends shiney murrays and huffy bikes.....hard times breed real people....I'm luck to be better off than my parents were at my age but I won't let my kid get spoiled like that!
 
I was an only child so I did get some expensive things. At one time I was really into go-carts, that was very expensive.

Then my dad got hurt and had to take an early retirement and everything changed.
 
If you make a threat you damn well better stand behind. If the kids find out you don't back what you say your gonna do, your screwed. When the oldest one called bullshit, it was on, and had to be.
 
Parents shouldn't have said a word.
Just coal in the stockings. Later in the day they should have taken the kids to a shelter and have them give the wrapped presents to kids there. All the while explaining to their brats the joy of giving to those without. Just imagine their reaction while they stood there and watched these other kids excitement after opening the gifts.
 
I understand what limited income is as my parents made the best of what they had. Back in the early 80's getting toys and gifts was hard for my family as income was little due to arriving in the US and starting a life for us here. Wages back then were like 3.50 an hour. Luckily for us we actually were blessed with generous friends and families that helped my parents out to get a cheap and decent place to live and jobs.

I understand what it is like to want. I did. I also understand a parents love is unconditional. But discipline is a must. I rewarded my son with a new Gameboy SP and a gamecube( different times) because he was very good and learned to use the potty. Being rewarded is good.

I think this guy is fine in my book. Lessons need to be taught and be learned. Its better this way then beating the crap out of them.
 
think i like your idea best, ed. damn kids these days dont appretiate anything that is done for them. if i told my son i was sellin his stuff he would have said something more along the liones of "oh poop", not "bullshit". keep the fear in them and they will never act up. ;)
 
flash said:
keep the fear in them and they will never act up. ;)

Although that doesn't sound like good parenting (to a lot of people) I agree with it. You don't want you're kids freaking hiding when you come home from work everyday. But if they're acting up and you're forced to turn up the heat they need to sense that and know that they better straighten up... or else.

the days of "dont' make me get you're father" are long gone but you can bet that's exactly how my house will be run when mine are at that age.
 
i give the guy 2 thumbs up. my son and i have a very loving household. i let him get away with plenty. however when he goes too far he knows it. all i have to do is say "one" and he knows its game on, he doesn't even let me get to "two"
 
You know, whats funny is, the reaction from my wife and mother-in-law. Totally on the side of the kids and they think what the father did is awful. I'm like, I bet they will never do that again.
 
TRUE
I don't beleive in the physical punishments I dealt with on a regular basis. But I have spnked my kid when she was putting herself in a situation where just stopping her wouldn't have taught her a lesson...like running ito the street between cars when she was little...you better beleive I whooped her butt....otherwise she wouldn't associate the consequences of her mistake w/ pain....this father did the right thing by knocking down the oldest son when he tested the alpha male of the family......others may think it's harsh but they either don't have children in this day/age or they have uncontrollable children in this day/age....
 
Those that don't agree in some sort of punishment that will teach them a lesson (physical or following through on a threat) are the parents that wind up on the tv talk shows with out of control teens. Don't beat the child to death, then again don't let them walk all over you!

I have had my share of corporal punishment and it was always because I knew better and still did it. This "time out" crap ... yeah, ok ... that'll work for a while till they figure out that a time out is better than a knock out.
 
Plaidfish brings out an important concept 'association'.

What impact will the association of this act have on these kids later in life?
 
I got my ass beat as a kid ...........but I deserved every spank, when Iwas good I was rewarded with things. I bring that into my house now. My wife says my son is afraid of me (only when he is being really bad) becaus I will spank him. Other than that usually I dont get past "one" before he comes to me and I have to explain to him what he has done wrong (he is 3 1/2 y.o. ) other than that he is a great kid and has asked Santa for an Old fashion fire truck (whew I found one) a fire pole ( had it made up because ordering it was $104 (48 of it was for the pole 56 was shipping ) some fire books and a drums set...(plz help me...send ear plugs pm me for address to send them too....lol)


~Michael
 
Some say ruling with fear is a bad thing, but you also rule with love. My dad (being a Pentacostal Reverend), would sit me down and tell me why what I did was wrong, then he would spank me with a leather strap, never with his hand and only on the butt. If you threw a tantrum and flailed your arms around, kicking and screaming, he would stop, wait until he knew he was only hitting butt (covered in clothes), then spank somemore if need be. Sometimes 3-5 swats, minimal punishment, up to 20 or so for the really bad stuff.

When the spanking was over, he would let you cry for awhile alone (sitting on the steps), then he would come out and tell you he loved you and that he was sorry for spanking you and explain why you were punished (as if you didn't know), give you a hug and tell you not to make the mistake again.

If this is wrong, then so be it. But if I have kids, they can expect the same.

My mom, on the other hand, was a little more ornery. She'd hit you when she was mad with whatever was near by. Broom, flyswatter, strap, wooden spoon, ruler... But dad was always in control of his emotions and did it to teach a lesson and make you affraid of the punishment, not himself.
 
while i had ol' dads belt on my bare ass several times, he taught me a lot. i had to put my dog down when i was 12. i was handed a gun and told that it was for the best and i had to do it. after burying the dog we walked back to the house (longest walk of my life). he then told me the only thing that i would ever have to do that was harder than what i had just done would be to spank my own son...he was right.
my son is now 11 and i dont have to spank him any more. all it takes now is "the look". when he gets that you can bet your ass he straightens right up. he isnt scared of me- he is only scared of possible consequences. just yesterday he came into my workshop to tell me he broke my bed. i could tell it was the last thing he wanted to do, but, before i could say a word he offered to sell his bike, ps2, games or whatever to pay for it. kinda made me feel good to know that he was willing to make things right. i know a lot of kids who would just act like they had nothing to do with it and had no idea how it happened.
 
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