Will any 12mm tire (wheel) will fit any RC brand

[Spinout06]

I'm wondering if any 12mm tire (wheel) will fit Any Brand .I've just bought a new rc ,Still waiting ! but id like to look at different wheels for it .They say 12mm wheels I assume that's the Hex size .id like to upgrade the tires .

 

[9x19]

Most should fit, though you should try to keep close to the original outer tire diameter, so your gearing will be right. If you want to go significantly smaller or bigger, you'll probably need to change your pinion gear to keep from frying the motor.

One thing: some of the short course wheels have different offsets between center line of tire and center line of the wheel.

 

[Littlemotor]

The short answer would be; no.

Any 12mm HEX wheel should fit your 12mm axle HEX, but you’ll still need to consider backspace of the wheel, as they differ across the board for many different vehicles.

The most common would be the current 1/10 2wd (REAR ONLY), and 4wd buggy offerings. They all use the same backspace (+/-<1.5mm), and are a “2.2” wheel. Older offerings were 1.7x” if memory serves.

They also offer those same diameter wheels in “pin type” rather than 12mm hex, so pay close attention, as some manufacturers don’t bother to notate that, nor picture the back side of the wheel on their advertisements so that you can clearly see what you’re ordering.

Current 1/10 2wd (REAR ONLY) & 4wd stadium truck, and mini-truggy most commonly use a 2.2 diameter as well, but they are significantly WIDER than the buggy wheels above. These also have varying backspace wheels available, as well as 12mm hex, and pin style.

Best thing to do is determine what backspace your factory wheels are, and then source aftermarket wheels with that same measurement. You physically CAN go with a wheel that has less backspace-making your vehicles overall track width wider, but it’s gonna look super goofy, and drive completely different due to what’s called “scrub radius”, and I’d surely advise against it. Also the wider your vehicle due to improper backspace, the more likely you are to destroy suspension arms, hingepins, bulkheads/diff cases, tie rods, knuckles, etc, as it applies greater force on all of those parts during a tumble, or crash-let alone a hard hit.. It’s also going to greatly diminish the life of your hub bearings.

If you need any help measuring your backspace, just post up, and I’ll gladly walk you through it via photos, and explanation.

 

[gragner66]

Agree with above but a 2.2 rim with a 12mm won’t work on a touring chassis with 12mm. And other likes of the sort

 

[Littlemotor]

Also backspace is NOT the same as “offset”…

The measurement from the wheel mounting location face to the outside of the wheel face is known as “offset”. This is a much older term dating back 50yrs, and is still very typical/relevant to RC offerings for whatever reason.

Backspace is the measurement from the very back side of the wheel, in to the face of the wheel’s mounting location/pad. THIS is much easier to get an exact measurement from as well.

Most RC wheels are offered in “half offset”, and “zero offset”. However-the actual backspace measurement between these among different manufacturers vary greatly.

There are others still, that do not specify ANY measurement, aside from that they are designed for the vehicle they came on.. The Traxxas 1/16 Mini E-Revo, Jammin’ CRT.5, and LC Racing EMB-T all are a few vehicles/wheels that fall into this category.

 

[Littlemotor]

Agree with above but a 2.2 rim with a 12mm won’t work on a touring chassis with 12mm. And other likes of the sort

This is exactly why it’s important to determine your backspace.

Also there are a few different bead types depending on the style of vehicle/tire/wheel. I believe 919 may have brought that up-or at least mentioned multiple OD’s from front to rear faces on the same wheel..

I won’t even get into functional beadloc’s..

 

[Lumikko]

I thought wheel offset means how far the wheel mounting surface is from the centerline of the wheel. So if you mount wider wheels with the same offset, half of the extra width goes toward the centerline of the car (increased wheel backspace) and half of it goes outward.

I could be mistaken but this is how I’ve understood it.

Not all manufacturers necessarily use these terms correctly or provide the info at all. For example, Team Associated and Schumacher buggy rear wheels are both 2.2” with 12 mm hexes and have the same backspace, but Schumacher wheels are narrower by 1 mm. You’ll be able to compensate for this with wider hexes, of course.

 

[gragner66]

I thought 1/8 scale usually used 17mm. But then again I’m not too up to date on newer models and company specs.

 

[Lumikko]

I thought 1/8 scale usually used 17mm. But then again I’m not too up to date on newer models and company specs.

This is commonly the case.

I googled the truck and looks like the wheels mount with M4 nuts so 12 mm is probably correct. Looks like the truck also has a 9 kg servo so the hexes aren’t the only underwhelming choice for this scale.

 

[Spinout06]

I thought 1/8 scale usually used 17mm. But then again I’m not too up to date on newer models and company specs.

Correct... Hosim claims the vexaro is 1/8 its obviously not. I've owned large scale Rc

 

[Spinout06]

I thought 1/8 scale usually used 17mm. But then again I’m not too up to date on newer models and company specs.

Correct... Hosim claims the vexaro x27 is 1/8 but it clearly is not .I think because of the big fin at the back it creates the illusion for length. all the parts say otherwise.

 

[Spinout06]

The short answer would be; no.

Any 12mm HEX wheel should fit your 12mm axle HEX, but you’ll still need to consider backspace of the wheel, as they differ across the board for many different vehicles.

The most common would be the current 1/10 2wd (REAR ONLY), and 4wd buggy offerings. They all use the same backspace (+/-<1.5mm), and are a “2.2” wheel. Older offerings were 1.7x” if memory serves.

They also offer those same diameter wheels in “pin type” rather than 12mm hex, so pay close attention, as some manufacturers don’t bother to notate that, nor picture the back side of the wheel on their advertisements so that you can clearly see what you’re ordering.

Current 1/10 2wd (REAR ONLY) & 4wd stadium truck, and mini-truggy most commonly use a 2.2 diameter as well, but they are significantly WIDER than the buggy wheels above. These also have varying backspace wheels available, as well as 12mm hex, and pin style.

Best thing to do is determine what backspace your factory wheels are, and then source aftermarket wheels with that same measurement. You physically CAN go with a wheel that has less backspace-making your vehicles overall track width wider, but it’s gonna look super goofy, and drive completely different due to what’s called “scrub radius”, and I’d surely advise against it. Also the wider your vehicle due to improper backspace, the more likely you are to destroy suspension arms, hingepins, bulkheads/diff cases, tie rods, knuckles, etc, as it applies greater force on all of those parts during a tumble, or crash-let alone a hard hit.. It’s also going to greatly diminish the life of your hub bearings.

If you need any help measuring your backspace, just post up, and I’ll gladly walk you through it via photos, and explanation.

I was looking at the Proline they come with hex extensions

 

[Spinout06]

I thought 1/8 scale usually used 17mm. But then again I’m not too up to date on newer models and company specs.

yes Vexarox27 claims to be 1/8 Clearly its not lol

 

[Lumikko]

Guys, the type of wheel hexes doesn’t determine the scale of the vehicle. The measurements compared to a full-sized counterpart (even a fictional one) do.

Usually 12 mm hexes are used with 1:10 and 1:8 vehicles have 17 mm ones, but deviating from this doesn’t change the scale of the entire model.

 

[Spinout06]

Guys, the type of wheel hexes doesn’t determine the scale of the vehicle. The measurements compared to a full-sized counterpart (even a fictional one) do.

Usually 12 mm hexes are used with 1:10 and 1:8 vehicles have 17 mm ones, but deviating from this doesn’t change the scale of the entire model.

Good point . I do wonder what does quality a certain scale though .

 

[WickedFog]

Good point . I do wonder what does quality a certain scale though .

The manufacturers like to base the scale off the electronics nowadays. Really stupid. But that's what all of the Horizon owned brands are based on. Like the Hammer Rey. It's easily 8th scale. Probably closer to 7th scale actually. But it has 10th scale electronics in it, so that must make it a 10th scale

 

[Lumikko]

The manufacturers like to base the scale off the electronics nowadays. Really stupid. But that's what all of the Horizon owned brands are based on. Like the Hammer Rey. It's easily 8th scale. Probably closer to 7th scale actually. But it has 10th scale electronics in it, so that must make it a 10th scale

I think Traxxas started it with the Slash.

Compared to real super stadium trucks, that thing is even larger than 1:8th scale. Maybe they labeled it 1:10 because the drivetrain, chassis, arms, etc. are similar to 1:10 stadium trucks, which were popular from the early ’90s. Maybe they thought it would help sales to label it with a popular scale.

Other manufacturers followed. In reality, even the LT10/DK10 from Team Associated is too large to be 1:10th scale.

In that sense, it’s not a completely goofy idea to say that certain component choices tell the scale. I’m just an old geezer who thinks cab forward -bodies on 1:10 4WD buggies look odd because the cockpit should fit a driver who is 18 cm (7”) tall.

 

[WickedFog]

I think Traxxas started it with the Slash.

Compared to real super stadium trucks, that thing is even larger than 1:8th scale. Maybe they labeled it 1:10 because the drivetrain, chassis, arms, etc. are similar to 1:10 stadium trucks, which were popular from the early ’90s. Maybe they thought it would help sales to label it with a popular scale.

Other manufacturers followed. In reality, even the LT10/DK10 from Team Associated is too large to be 1:10th scale.

In that sense, it’s not a completely goofy idea to say that certain component choices tell the scale. I’m just an old geezer who thinks cab forward -bodies on 1:10 4WD buggies look odd because the cockpit should fit a driver who is 18 cm (7”) tall.

That is what I think it should be based on too. How big would the driver be sitting in the vehicle? There's ypir scale. Wheelbsse would be another one, as long as they based it on the same type of 1:1 vehicle.

 

[gragner66]

Sounds like it’s all went to pot as far as scale ratings. lol

 

[WickedFog]

Sounds like it’s all went to pot as far as scale ratings. lol

It has. Here is a comparison between the 1/8 scale Kraton and the 1/10 scale Hammer Rey.

And a vintage Kyosho 1/10 versus the Kyosho 1/8 Mad Crusher and 1/8 Kraton.

Four 1/10 scales and two 1/8 scales.

Two 1/10 scales