Wider tires on Slash 4x4

[JoeMAXX]

I was wondering if anyone has replaced the stock tires on the Slash with wider tires and rims from the Rustler. I also read somewhere the Talons tires and rims from the Stampede will fit but may scrub and stick out too far.

The truck is all over the track with the stock tires because the track is not well maintained and very loose so I am looking for better handling wider tires.

 

[alien13]

For racing? You can do it, but it'll wreck the body and you'll probably get DQ'd.

 

[SchrodeMode]

The truck is all over the track with the stock tires because the stock tires suck.

Fixed it for you. If you're running on a track, you need better tires, if you're bashing, you could use better tires. Look at proline, they've got great tires for racing and bashing.

 

[JoeMAXX]

I do not race and the track I run on no longer can sanction races because it is on Open Space property so they only maintain it in the spring then let it go for the rest of the year.

I am still wondering if anyone has used Rustler or Stampede tires and rims on a Slash 4x4 ? I have no problem cutting the body to fit the tires.

I have found the the stock tires hit the body wheel wells and I may need to stiffen the suspension a little with better springs or use an extra spacer. I have only ran this truck 3 times so I am still feeling it out to find out the best setup.

 

[alien13]

I do not race and the track I run on no longer can sanction races because it is on Open Space property so they only maintain it in the spring then let it go for the rest of the year.

I am still wondering if anyone has used Rustler or Stampede tires and rims on a Slash 4x4 ? I have no problem cutting the body to fit the tires.

I have found the the stock tires hit the body wheel wells and I may need to stiffen the suspension a little with better springs or use an extra spacer. I have only ran this truck 3 times so I am still feeling it out to find out the best setup.

And this is where I'm going to refer you to the post above, where SchrodeMode tells you that it's the tires, not the width. Look into what tires (The rubber part) work best on the surface you are running on.

 

[JoeMAXX]

Although I still think wider is still better. Since my TMaxx and Revo do not have any traction problems at this track with the Talon tires installed.

One option is go with really agressive treads patterns.

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXBPKY&P=ML

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXBVEC&P=M


Another option is go to buggy tires with a conversion kit. Which are lower profile and agressive tread patterns.

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXZBM6&P=ML

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXZUB5&P=M

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXHAF4&P=M

 

[alien13]

Well, you are the guru...

 

[JoeMAXX]

Even with the stock tires installed I can handle the loose track but I am tired of being on tires that act more like drift tires when I come out of the corners and pound the throttle.

My truck is sliding side ways and acting more like a drifting car on this loose dirt than have to compensate with steering. I have a Futaba S3305 servo I have yet to install to get rid of my stock all plastic servo of 80 Oz to 125 Oz with metal gearing. I was hoping you guys would do all the work for me than tell me what I need ;o) As I also said this is my first Short Course Truck and I am looking to set it properly than get the most out of it on the track I run at. I will be replacing the plastic shocks with either after market or the Traxxas Big bore shocks. Still feeling this one out on price and springs.

 

[wacmartin]

I'd do what everyone's telling you to do and get some different tires. Ask someone at the track who runs a short course truck what they're using. I also think wider tires would look kind of silly on any sct.

 

[alien13]

Well, we tried to help. But we aren't doing all the work for you. We'll guide you in the right direction, but whether or not you follow that direction is up to you. I race short course trucks, and there are different tires for different track conditions. None of them are wider than what would come on any short course truck.

A short course truck is exactly that, a short course truck. It's not meant for wide tires.

 

[usv568]

Ok I was wondering when someone would bring this up. I have a friend with a 4x4 slash, he put on wider taller tires, in his words, was the worse f-ing thing he ever spent his money on, truck was slower, handled worse. You keep asking for help we offered it to you, obviously you don't need it if your so set on your decision you hear what people are trying to say. The stock tires are horrible, go check out proline, see what others are running. Also maybe change your driving style alittle. Big bore shocks are good, prolines are better. For bashing I would go with big bores, racing prolines. I know I wasted my time writing this cause your a noob that knows better than people that have experienced it or have seen others struggle. I still consider myself a nood at times, cause I learn something everytime I go to the track, I feel the surface, see how wet it is, make a few laps make adjustments run again. I ask questions all the time, seeking other people that have been doing it far longer than I have for information. Knowledge is power my friend, sometimes you have to turn off the brain and listen. Ok I'm done.

 

[Greywolf74]

Yup....get proline/AKA/Panther or whatever other good quality brand you want but SCTs need SCT tires. With the right ones traction wont be an issue.

 

[JoeMAXX]

Ok I was wondering when someone would bring this up. I have a friend with a 4x4 slash, he put on wider taller tires, in his words, was the worse f-ing thing he ever spent his money on, truck was slower, handled worse. You keep asking for help we offered it to you, obviously you don't need it if your so set on your decision you hear what people are trying to say. The stock tires are horrible, go check out proline, see what others are running. Also maybe change your driving style alittle. Big bore shocks are good, prolines are better. For bashing I would go with big bores, racing prolines. I know I wasted my time writing this cause your a noob that knows better than people that have experienced it or have seen others struggle. I still consider myself a nood at times, cause I learn something everytime I go to the track, I feel the surface, see how wet it is, make a few laps make adjustments run again. I ask questions all the time, seeking other people that have been doing it far longer than I have for information. Knowledge is power my friend, sometimes you have to turn off the brain and listen. Ok I'm done.

Accually I am not a Noob While this is my first short course truck I have been in the hobby since about 1989. I have already priced out better tires and setups than may go with the buggy tire solution. Glad your done I was looking for some of the answers I received that wider is not better and it made the truck slower. I have a very loose track that I run at. In my small collection of R/Cs I have a Tamiya Grasshopper vintage 1989, Team kit RC10T3 vintage 1992, Traxxas 4Tec 1999, 2003 Mugen MTX3, 2004 Team Kit TC4 that I will convert to brushless, 2002 4910 TMaxx 2.5 with the 2.5r out of my Revo , 2005 Revo 2.5R with a 3.3 engine, 2 2005 RC10B4 buggies converted to brushless, 2005 RC10T4 converted to brushless. , 2007 Team Kit GT2 OS TZ 1.8 engine. I also have 2 boats and 2 Helicopters.
This is not a bragging right thing but I am not a Noobie to R/C ;o)

One option is go with really agressive treads patterns.

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXBPKY&P=ML

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXBVEC&P=M


Another option is go to buggy tires with a conversion kit. Which are lower profile and agressive tread patterns.

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXZBM6&P=ML

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXZUB5&P=M

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXHAF4&P=M

 

[tmaxxfreek]

Buggy tires are not a good choice either, i ran them on my 4x4 slash for one race, caused bad rollovers, granted it could have been my setup, but when i went back to my calibers i had no problems with the roll overs, do some reasearch on your tires, read up on them a little and most manufacturers will specify what type tire to run on different track conditions, it will depend on your driving style too, but the proper tires will help a ton, i race 3 different tracks and use 3 different tire designs because the track conditions are different. Research is always a good thing to do before you drop your coin on something.

 

[JoeMAXX]

Buggy tires are not a good choice either, i ran them on my 4x4 slash for one race, caused bad rollovers, granted it could have been my setup, but when i went back to my calibers i had no problems with the roll overs, do some research on your tires, read up on them a little and most manufacturers will specify what type tire to run on different track conditions, it will depend on your driving style too, but the proper tires will help a ton, i race 3 different tracks and use 3 different tire designs because the track conditions are different. Research is always a good thing to do before you drop your coin on something.

Thanks another answer I was looking for My track they cannot sanction races at any more and they only maintain it in the spring because it is on Open Space property. It gets really loose by the summer and bumpy as hell. I have considered bringing a rake with me to fill the holes every time I ran this year My trucks are all over and must say it definitely improves driving skills when your going around a corner filled with bumps and loose dirt. You learn a complex track and then know where to take the jumps and corners to minimize the flipping over. At my track you can flip on a straight if you hit a hole that is deep. The jumps can no longer be taken in the middle so we go to one side or the other so we do not flip. I have not driven on a nice smooth track in years then add to the mix a bunch of kids with one battery pack then playing with someone with less experience. it makes passing so much fun. I tend to run them over more times and it also adds to driving skills rodent avoidance.

 

[alien13]

Here's a good selection of short course tires for the un-maintained track.

http://prolineracing.com/short-course-desert-truck-tires-all-terrain

 

[JoeMAXX]

Here's a good selection of short course tires for the un-maintained track.

http://prolineracing.com/short-course-desert-truck-tires-all-terrain

http://prolineracing.com/tires/badlands-sc-2.2/3.0-m2-medium-tires/

The Bad lands seem like the best solution. Most aggresive tread for loose dirt.

Thanks

I will not spend the money until I have asked the questions and reached a best solution. Why waste it when I have others that have been there and tried these other products or at least look at them with consideration to the problem .

 

[usv568]

My apologies! I was just trying to state that running bigger and wider tires was not a good idea. I have a 2wd slash running on stock tires. I had to adjust my driving style and change the shocks to big bores. I had to find what works for it to handle well. I'm running 50wt in the rear and 30wt in the front just to get it to turn for my driving style. I would check out what other trucks are running there. Calibers are a good choice to try. Going to take some time to get a slash to handle right. Again my apologize didn't mean to put you down in any way.

 

[JoeMAXX]

My apologies! I was just trying to state that running bigger and wider tires was not a good idea. I have a 2wd slash running on stock tires. I had to adjust my driving style and change the shocks to big bores. I had to find what works for it to handle well. I'm running 50wt in the rear and 30wt in the front just to get it to turn for my driving style. I would check out what other trucks are running there. Calibers are a good choice to try. Going to take some time to get a slash to handle right. Again my apologize didn't mean to put you down in any way.

No Worries

We are all here to help each other in the problems we have. Yes I can come off as a know it all sometimes and at the same time I also know alot about other trucks. Unless someone tells me I am wrong I think I am right. I invite it and want to know when I am wrong.

When I ask a question I want to know what others are doing to solve the problem. I saw a video online that suggested running wider tires and many guys are trying them. But I now know that the drive train will probably break using them. Using a 1/8 Scale buggy tire conversion probably not a good idea one dude tried them.

I will be performing upgrades now that my play time is almost over this year and it is repair time for many of my R/Cs. Refill the shocks with oil. Clean them up for next year find any parts that require fixing.

I use a Losi shock balancer to get them the right length on each side. Nice tool for balancing shocks.

From the information I have gathered out of this thread I will purchase a set of Traxxas Big Bore Shocks and upgrade my tires to Proline Badlands Tires. My previous links seem to be broken which led to some confusion.

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&W=000243232&I=LXBPKY&P=K

I will install Beadlock rims because while I do not mind glueing my tires rather have a set of rims that do not require glue.

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&W=000243232&I=LXXUM5&P=K

Thank you all for your input and advice than know I read it with out reading into it. We are all here together to solve problems with our fun little toys

 

[JoeMAXX]

The Traxxas Big Bore shocks have come in and so have the Proline Bead Lock rims. The Proline Badlands are on back order. I did buy a new body a Proline Desert Rat for it and painted it Metalic Blue, Black and Silver. Went for a 3 toned body when I painted it. Picture is not that great will attempt a better picture later.