This thread has come up time and time again on so many different boards. I am not blaming you in any way, shoot tires are expensive who wouldn't want to get em off, espically if you break a rizmin. I think these threads should really be called, "How do I seperate the cash from my wallet?", because in the end every time I try this that is what I end up doing. Yes sometimes with hardcore chemies I get them loose, but the tires always get messed up in some way, whether it be heat stress, chemical burn, or the old yank em out of shape routine. It sucks but save yourself some time and buy some new shoes.