nitroaddict banned?? Whats up with this???

[nitromaniac]

well, nitroaddict has been banned, this is not good, he is one of the main reasons I joined this forum(and soon to be a contributing member) and has also become a good friend, this site needs more people like him, I really hope this is a mistake and gets cleared up soon! members of this site may not like each other and thats ok, but, I like to learn, and I depend on other members for their experience, this site would be alot less of a knowledge data base without people like nitroaddict.

 

[mcvickj]

I agree. I have been trying to get an answer to this question also but it seems the mods are ignoring the question. I am still waiting to see the proof for the ban.

Edit: It seems the phrase "Inncoent until proven guilty" doesn't apply at RCNT all of the sudden. I was trying to get an answer and the proof to see but FastEddy has harshly slammed the door in my face and locked my thread. Wrong guys.

A long time ago WoodiE said this site was for the members and it was our site to run and if we didn't like something to let him know. Well I am letting him know right now. I realize the banning of members comes down to the mods but when it is done on the spot with out even letting the other side of the story be told that is wrong. Eddy has already mentioned that he won't post the original thread for at least the contributing members to see. I have spoken directly to NA and his site of the story is different. So much that it deserves to be heard. I didn't want it to come to this but I see I have no choice in the matter.

 

[FastEddy]

Your questions were fully answered in a timely fashion.

NA isn't Ban, hes on a vacation.
The reason is He broke the rule of using a racial slur.
Anyone that brakes this rule for any reason will be sent on vacation or ban depending on the circumstances.

I don't believe that NA is a raciest, far from it, but he broke the rule.

Let his mistake be a learning experience for everyone else, Report a bad post, don't try to deal with it yourself.

-Ed

 

[mcvickj]

Vacation? Call it what you want.... You only answer half of my question. I would still like to see it. From what NA told me he DID report the post. What part of that don't you get? I am just unhappy how this was and is being handled and I think there should be some changes to this process....

 

[nitro dave]

mcvickj-
I too am a little shock that NA has been banned, even if it is for a short while. I don't believe that NA is a racist in any way shape or form, but that doesn't mean he is incapable of making a comment, especially when things get heated.

We are not mods nor are we admins, so we don't get the priveledge of looking at those posts or comments to give our weight on whether action against the poster should be warranted. I also don't think that we have the right to do so after action against a member has been taken. While this is a site for us, and we do carry considerable weight in how it is run, we all don't get that much of a say. There has to be someone who makes those decisions for the board.

Did NA report the post, yeah maybe, did one of the mods respond in time? I don't know. Does NA have his side of the story, sure. Is it possible that NA didn't give the mods enough time to respond before he took matters into his own hands? Possibly. The bottom line is if NA wrote a racial slur, then he deserves his temporary ban. It is clearly against the rules. There are only two rules that I know of that spell instant vacation-pron and racial stuff. WoodiE has been more than clear on this, remember mad sceintist? The mods and admins will not give warnings for either of these offenses. They shouldn't have to. I guess you can call them liars and say that they are making up that NA made the comment, but I have no reason to believe that any of them would do that.

I hope that NA comes back after his time away, he is extremely valuable to this community, hell I hope RobH also comes back.

 

[NCNitro]

I was the one that pulled the thread, yes NA made use of a filtered racial slur that will not be tolerated in any way shape or form on this site. This has been firmly stated before, NO RACISM, NO PORN, it's that simple, use of any racial slur can not be allowed to take place. I personally like NA, I think he has alot to offer this site, I also believe he is not a racist, but we can not make exceptions to those two rules for any one. Also a vacation or ban is NEVER the decision of one Mod or Admin but as a team. Many of you never saw the thread, and honestly don't need to, it contained both racial slurs and links to offensive sites, that is why we are here. I'm sure NA will be back posting, and helping his fellow RCNT members soon enough.

 

[Rjimenez]

this is ringo, a friend and coworker of anthony (nitroaddict). I can assure you that what ever he said was taken out of context, as he is one of the biggest supporters against racism, that i have ever know. He has asked me to have you email him IMMEDIATLY at the following address: [email protected] if you have any questions.

He wanted everyone to know, that yes, he did use a slur, but it was in this context:
___________________________________
Edit by Ed.
Before this gets out of control these two words will not be used on this site for any reason.
_____________________________________

Nitroaddict has also requested that a mod contact him via email, explaining more regarding this decision, and also answering two more questions: 1. Why it says BANNED under his screen name, and not others, who are also currently banned. He finds this embarressing. 2. How long the ban is in effect for. Is it permenent?



Thank you.

 

[Scummer]

From NA's viewpoint the story is a totally different one.

NA actually has pointed out, that he is highly offended by the words that SilentGTboy used and just recited these offensive words.
And from the history from NA's posting contents, i do give NA's version alot more weight than anything else that has been explained here.

Thomas

 

[HumboldtBlazer]

This forum has to have rules or it is anarchy! Give the mods a break the have a job to do, and there job makes RCNT a better experience for the whole and not catering to the individual. I to have been guilty of that thinking, but I came to the above realization. He will be back and we will welcome NA with open arms as he is a good guy.

 

[Scummer]

Originally posted by humboldtblazer
This forum has to have rules or it is anarchy! Give the mods a break the have a job to do, and there job makes RCNT a better experience for the whole and not catering to the individual. I to have been guilty of that thinking, but I came to the above realization. He will be back and we will welcome NA with open arms as he is a good guy.

This could have very well been sorted out by just pulling the thread and PM'ing NA about the post. But banning him for something that he tried to take a stand against and actually reported the incident HIMSELF is friggin ridiculous.

Thomas

 

[FastEddy]

NA account is 100% true.
The word was used, He is on vacation.
No exceptions!

I edited the above post and did not ban the user this time.
We are not trying to cover anything up. These words will not be used on this forum.

I hope NAs co-worker cleared things up for those of you that needed proof.

 

[mcvickj]

I am not saying they need to cater to an individual and I realize they have a job to do. The only reason I am tooting my bugle so loudly on this issue is because they seen one word and assumed! They pulled that one word out of the context it was in. If anyone needs to be on a "vacaction" it is SGTB.

Edit: This was posted before I seen Eddys post. My question is why in't SGTB on a vacation for using a racial slur?

 

[Scummer]

At least we don't have the death penalty here to fry people for something they took a stand against.

 

[HumboldtBlazer]

I do acknowledge there is a underlying problem here that might have driven NA over the edge. People like SGTB come here to screw with people to get a reaction, well he got one. This is my opinion and I don't have all the information so take this as one users assumption. I think if SGTB was delt with before this happened as we all know he is a problem child then NA wouldn't have beeen driven to this point. I can attest for NA point of view it is very frustrating when you are a long term member and people like SGTB come on this board for malicious intent. It frustrates us because there. is no "rule" against this and they are free to screw with people as long as they don't show porn or make racist comments. This makes us feel like our hands are tied, and in my case I was always loosing my composer and letting myself stoop to their antics. I think the mods are trying to find a way to deal with this non rule breaking problem, or at least I hope they are as I see this as the major hurdle for RCNT to overcome.

 

[mcvickj]

Originally posted by humboldtblazer
I do acknowledge there is a underlying problem here that might have driven NA over the edge. People like SGTB come here to screw with people to get a reaction, well he got one. This is my opinion and I don't have all the information so take this as one users assumption. I think if SGTB was delt with before this happened as we all know he is a problem child then NA wouldn't have beeen driven to this point. I can attest for NA point of view it is very frustrating when you are a long term member and people like SGTB come on this board for malicious intent. It frustrates us because there. is no "rule" against this and they are free to screw with people as long as they don't show porn or make racist comments. This makes us feel like our hands are tied, and in my case I was always loosing my composer and letting myself stoop to their antics. I think the mods are trying to find a way to deal with this non rule breaking problem, or at least I hope they are as I see this as the major hurdle for RCNT to overcome.

EXACTLY!!! I couldn't have said this any better.....

 

[Rjimenez]

Originally posted by Rjimenez

He wanted everyone to know, that yes, he did use a slur, but it was in this context:
___________________________________
Edit by Ed.
Before this gets out of control these two words will not be used on this site for any reason.
_____________________________________

since this was edited, i will post it a better way. Fast Eddy - if this is in anyway wrong, please PM me, as i am new.

The context in which the word was used:

SILENTGTBOY - used the "F" word regarding homosexuals

NITROADDICT - said that it was the most insulting word he has ever heard. To his ears, the "F" word was even worse than when someone uses the "N" word.

This is how it went down, except that Nitroaddict and SILENTGTBOY used the actual words.

 

[Scummer]

NA, if you read this thread, let this be a lesson to you. Take a screenshot which clearly marks the offending post!

Thomas

 

[HumboldtBlazer]

It took me awhile, weeks even to get that point conveyed clearly. This was my whole problem for awhile and I was expressing myself incorrectly. I was getting mad and shooting my gun instead of trying to organize my thoughts about the situation. My self given vacation helped me clear my mind about it. I just needed to take a step back, take a deep breath and count to 10. NA should have done the same thing, as If we all took a break, that would send a clear message to the owner. I am not calling WoodiE out here by anymeans, as I think I understand his point of view on this subject, but clearly there has to be a way to deal with this so senior memebers aren't getting frustrated to the point they loose it.

 

[indyjohnny]

How about posting a time we can all expect to see NA back here again?? I say we all just sign off and wait for his return..
I dont think anyone here disagrees with NA more than I do on political issues.. But thats political only. NA is well spoken and more than helpful to everyone.. There are a few stars on this site whether anyone likes it or not.. NA is one of them.. so is Blazer and I'm glad to see him posting again as well.. I think some extra consideration ( benefit of the doubt ) should be given to people who post so much and work to help so many people.. nobody is perfect. I personally think the point has been made already about the slur.. Bring him back now and lets all move on!! Peace...

 

[FastEddy]

If I had the answer I would post it however I don't.
As soon as someone knows we will let you know.