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kyosho138 said:
I had a Storm Pro, not made for bashing (a proper pro too not a hopped up rtr) and the Lightning2 certainly isn't a knock off, of a K2, there are are whole raft of differences.
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I had a Storm Pro, not made for bashing (a proper pro too not a hopped up rtr) and the Lightning2 certainly isn't a knock off, of a K2, there are are whole raft of differences.
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Ryan with savage said:
Sorry Ryan the lightning and sacker pro kits are a knock off of the k2, even our importer over here agrees with this, there are a few difs, ie like the pretty alloy dif braces, the fact that there are kno lsd difs in the lightning and the poopy rear suspension angles but they are a direct knock off of the kanai 2, also kanai dont have problems withe there steering Jamming
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Well of course a pro buggy will make a fair driver better, with the right setup and a good mill but a PRO Kit will do almost nothing for a driver with little or no driving skills except put a big dent in his pocket book.... pro kits I think are to give the average racer a taste of what the Pros are driving.
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Well guys I ran the 335spider. Josh Wheeler set up. Not sure if I like it or not. Lol
Here is the run down from Sat. practice day.
I ran from 2 p.m. 6 p.m.
Motor I was running was Novarossi 3 port, 14 bell, stock spur 46/ 2050 pipe, temp was 230-240. I also let other people drive to get their views on it as well.
My view point:
It seems to have crazy off power steering but a little push on power. I believe the on power push is because the front and center are diff-ing out under power. This makes the front and center diff out more than a 572 set up. I said two times. lol
For me it seems to center up faster for jumps coming out of the turns which I like a lot. Putting the power to the ground was good. Once I was lined up I would punch it and it would move like rapped ape. Tracking straight as anything. But if you got on the power to early coming out of a turn then the rear would come out from under you ASAP!!!
But if you did not get on it to early the buggy seem to have a lot of traction some what all the time. More time will tell if I like more.
I had 2 guys drive my buggy and I drove 2 mugens.
Other views of the 335spider.
1st guy drives a stock Mugen X5. So he is use to having a super light buggy.
His view of my hyper was a little heavy for his liking. But it went through the rough stuff so much easier than his mugen. Jumped good, was way more stable/ panted than his. His rear seems to come around a lot faster but he drives with his brakes. Drives hard into the turn hit the brakes turn then power outs.
Mines brake then turn then power out.
H7 did not have the turning like his mugen. But he said he kind of like it. But need more steering for him. But he did say that H7 was set up so a person that never drove a 1.8 could just pick this buggy up and drive it very well. So that is good. I guess????
Me driving his mugen.
I seem to get up to top speed much faster. B.c. of it being light. I had to get use to the steering and his Hard Braking that he had. Drive hard in the turn then brake then turn and power out. It seems you have to drive a mugen super hard to make it work. JUST ME!!
It seems to jump well but did not go through the rough stuff good at all. The rear came a round on me a lot till I could not be sure of my self that I was tracking right.
I did like the steering but it seem stable at times and some times it did not. Not sure if driving hard is for me???
Other Mugen x5: buggy I drove was a little heavier. His steering was slowed down a lot for my liking but I was able to drive his very easy. Steering was the same what the same. But the rear end was panted. It jumped well. Went through the rough a lot better than the lighter mugen but not as good as the heavier H7.
With the heavier mugen I was able to drive it a little harder than the light one. And I was sure of myself that I was tracking right and straight for next jump or anything that was a head of me.
It seems if I had the lighter buggy steering and the heavier rear tractions I could come to say I would like a mugen.
Guy 2:
K3 drove my buggy said it had more steering than his buggy and went through the rough stuff much better than his did. Jumped good tracked well. But some what the same other than that.
For me I had all the K cars so here is my view.
I feel the kyosho I had steering very good steering. The H7 has good steering but not as good as my kyosho K3 did. But I did go faster with the H7 than I did with my K3. They both seem to handle the well so I don’t know really way I was faster with the H7.
But times don’t lie that is for sure.
Maybe u guys can shed some light on this.
Well I really would like to try a mugen set up my way to really to see if this is for me. Reason I say this is b.c. I need to see if driving on the edge (meaning un-stable) is my style of driving or driving a little on the safe (meaning more stable) is for me.
If I find a good deal on one I may give it a try.
If anyone has any views on this please post.
Thanx dibs
Here is the run down from Sat. practice day.
I ran from 2 p.m. 6 p.m.
Motor I was running was Novarossi 3 port, 14 bell, stock spur 46/ 2050 pipe, temp was 230-240. I also let other people drive to get their views on it as well.
My view point:
It seems to have crazy off power steering but a little push on power. I believe the on power push is because the front and center are diff-ing out under power. This makes the front and center diff out more than a 572 set up. I said two times. lol
For me it seems to center up faster for jumps coming out of the turns which I like a lot. Putting the power to the ground was good. Once I was lined up I would punch it and it would move like rapped ape. Tracking straight as anything. But if you got on the power to early coming out of a turn then the rear would come out from under you ASAP!!!
But if you did not get on it to early the buggy seem to have a lot of traction some what all the time. More time will tell if I like more.
I had 2 guys drive my buggy and I drove 2 mugens.
Other views of the 335spider.
1st guy drives a stock Mugen X5. So he is use to having a super light buggy.
His view of my hyper was a little heavy for his liking. But it went through the rough stuff so much easier than his mugen. Jumped good, was way more stable/ panted than his. His rear seems to come around a lot faster but he drives with his brakes. Drives hard into the turn hit the brakes turn then power outs.
Mines brake then turn then power out.
H7 did not have the turning like his mugen. But he said he kind of like it. But need more steering for him. But he did say that H7 was set up so a person that never drove a 1.8 could just pick this buggy up and drive it very well. So that is good. I guess????
Me driving his mugen.
I seem to get up to top speed much faster. B.c. of it being light. I had to get use to the steering and his Hard Braking that he had. Drive hard in the turn then brake then turn and power out. It seems you have to drive a mugen super hard to make it work. JUST ME!!
It seems to jump well but did not go through the rough stuff good at all. The rear came a round on me a lot till I could not be sure of my self that I was tracking right.
I did like the steering but it seem stable at times and some times it did not. Not sure if driving hard is for me???
Other Mugen x5: buggy I drove was a little heavier. His steering was slowed down a lot for my liking but I was able to drive his very easy. Steering was the same what the same. But the rear end was panted. It jumped well. Went through the rough a lot better than the lighter mugen but not as good as the heavier H7.
With the heavier mugen I was able to drive it a little harder than the light one. And I was sure of myself that I was tracking right and straight for next jump or anything that was a head of me.
It seems if I had the lighter buggy steering and the heavier rear tractions I could come to say I would like a mugen.
Guy 2:
K3 drove my buggy said it had more steering than his buggy and went through the rough stuff much better than his did. Jumped good tracked well. But some what the same other than that.
For me I had all the K cars so here is my view.
I feel the kyosho I had steering very good steering. The H7 has good steering but not as good as my kyosho K3 did. But I did go faster with the H7 than I did with my K3. They both seem to handle the well so I don’t know really way I was faster with the H7.
But times don’t lie that is for sure.
Maybe u guys can shed some light on this.
Well I really would like to try a mugen set up my way to really to see if this is for me. Reason I say this is b.c. I need to see if driving on the edge (meaning un-stable) is my style of driving or driving a little on the safe (meaning more stable) is for me.
If I find a good deal on one I may give it a try.
If anyone has any views on this please post.
Thanx dibs
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I agree, you don't need a Pro buggy to win, but it would make it easier lol.Kyosho138 said:
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kyosho138
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i totaly agree with the it would make it easier hahaha but hey if you can win with a crappy buggy that just shows how good you are...
about the josh wheeler set up... the set up was mostly designed for control... while you drive it it may took totally out of control but its doing everything your telling it to... so go take it to the track and try to push it a little harder and throw it harder into a corner...what you wanna do is try to throw it sideways.. dont slide too much.... and then just pound on it.... but you also need a good clutchbell/clutch set up to do this
about the josh wheeler set up... the set up was mostly designed for control... while you drive it it may took totally out of control but its doing everything your telling it to... so go take it to the track and try to push it a little harder and throw it harder into a corner...what you wanna do is try to throw it sideways.. dont slide too much.... and then just pound on it.... but you also need a good clutchbell/clutch set up to do this
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i run kyosho just like josh
1.0 kyosho springs
kyosho carbon shoes
cut a mm or 2 off the shoes tip
just like he said at MO race this july.
so drive all the way in to the turn jam the brakes and throw it and power out is what you are saying?
i will try that
1.0 kyosho springs
kyosho carbon shoes
cut a mm or 2 off the shoes tip
just like he said at MO race this july.
so drive all the way in to the turn jam the brakes and throw it and power out is what you are saying?
i will try that
kyosho138
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Well kinda like that... it may help to get stiffer spring in the rear end.. but i am not sure what type of track you are running on. You wanna be more smooth tho.. not so dicy.. being smooth is the key.. somtimes it better to be agressive and dice through the feild.. just really depends on your track type and all..
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you are always better and faster if you drive not thrash, full throttle to full brakes normally means full impact with fence as well, i think you have missed the point on the pro level cars kyosho, if people buy the best there is at the time there is a chance that by the time they can drive it to its full potential it will still be competetive, there is a huge dif in cheap to pro level carskyosho138 said:
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what i ment by dicy is a smooth car still.. but u wanna have full control over the car..short track cars you can get around somethng if you need to.. usually its ruts n crap like that.. better off if you dont hit a rut.... what i ment is better to have a smooth car...but, with that diff oil set up its a more agressive set up because everyone i know that has used it looks completly out of control... yet they have COMPLETE control over it...
