New 1/12 Losi NASCAR Racers

[luke66]

Yeah, the new Proline stuff makes me want one- even more then before….

 

[RustyUs]

Okay. So, I'm not a NASCAR fan. I couldn't even name two dudes who drive these cars . I used to watch racing when I was a youngster... we only got three TV stations back in the day with antenna. Nowadays, I'll watch the last half of a night race if the moment sparks something for some reason. I'm looking for a smaller scale multi tasking RC to run in the driveway. 1/8 scale Vendetta gets little use these days. A 1/12 scale platform might just be the ticket. If this is the paint scheme to be released by Losi, I'll give the platform a second look...

Off I go to research this 1/12 ride.
Slap on some hard tires... a possibility of drifting this thing?

 

[luke66]

Okay. So, I'm not a NASCAR fan. I couldn't even name two dudes who drive these cars . I used to watch racing when I was a youngster... we only got three TV stations back in the day with antenna. Nowadays, I'll watch the last half of a night race if the moment sparks something for some reason. I'm looking for a smaller scale multi tasking RC to run in the driveway. 1/8 scale Vendetta gets little use these days. A 1/12 scale platform might just be the ticket. If this is the paint scheme to be released by Losi, I'll give the platform a second look...
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Off I go to research this 1/12 ride.
Slap on some hard tires... a possibility of drifting this thing?

It’s a GROM, so you’d could definitely bash it.

If I had one I’d prolly do up a Camaro body in the G56 Camaro sceme

 

[RustyUs]

Battery

I'm off to go look, but maybe someone can answer: Will the chassis accept a 2S full size stick pack?

 

[DavidB1126]

This is the dimensions of the stock 1400 pack:

Product Height 0.84" (21 mm)
Product Length 3.96" (101 mm)
Product Weight 85g
Product Width 1.24" (31 mm)

Now looking at the chassis with all that room on the side, I mean it might be doable to fit it. Could just take out the battery strap/tray and just Velcro the battery right to the chassis. That's what I do with my reflex 14t battery.

 

[RustyUs]

This is the dimensions of the stock 1400 pack:

Product Height 0.84" (21 mm)
Product Length 3.96" (101 mm)
Product Weight 85g
Product Width 1.24" (31 mm)

Now looking at the chassis with all that room on the side, I mean it might be doable to fit it. Could just take out the battery strap/tray and just Velcro the battery right to the chassis. That's what I do with my reflex 14t battery.

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That's what I came up as well. I'm just trying to find an excuse to buy a 1/12 scale on-road RC

 

[CertifiedMike]

That's what I came up as well. I'm just trying to find an excuse to buy a 1/12 scale on-road RC

I think theres a class for these at my 'local' track. Depends what I find when I ever get there but the idea of buying this, putting it on a track and racing, no mods class sounds pretty fun!
That would be my 'excuse' to buy one!

I don't think I need a very fast on road car just yet so stock sounds good!

 

[Mrgoodwrench35]

Battery

I'm off to go look, but maybe someone can answer: Will the chassis accept a 2S full size stick pack?

I'm not sure what 2s stick your referencing. The only 2s that I have is the Zeee pictured next to the CNHL 3s and the factory 2s. The 3s pictured is the biggest pack I've found that fits without mods.

It looks like you could trim out some of the chassis bracing and fit a larger battery but I'd wonder about weight balance.

 

[CertifiedMike]

I'm not sure what 2s stick your referencing. The only 2s that I have is the Zeee pictured next to the CNHL 3s and the factory 2s. The 3s pictured is the biggest pack I've found that fits without mods.

It looks like you could trim out some of the chassis bracing and fit a larger battery but I'd wonder about weight balance.

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So how is it on 3s???

With the 1400's, everyone is still getting good speed, power and long enough run time?
That seems small to me, even for a smaller motor, chassis...

I still don't understand the hard pack rule.

 

[Mrgoodwrench35]

So how is it on 3s???

With the 1400's, everyone is still getting good speed, power and long enough run time?

The mojave is nearly uncontrollable on 3s unless you utilize punch control settings in the esc. I haven't ran the nascar grom on 3s yet, just the factory battery. But even on the 1400 2s it rips. Run time stinks, 20 min at best. The 3s gets it up to 30-45min and I'm pretty throttle heavy.

As far as speed, I could only get the mojave up to 50-52 on 3s before it experienced lift. I'm sure the nascar would do better in that respect.

 

[CertifiedMike]

The mojave is nearly uncontrollable on 3s unless you utilize punch control settings in the esc. I haven't ran the nascar grom on 3s yet, just the factory battery. But even on the 1400 2s it rips. Run time stinks, 20 min at best. The 3s gets it up to 30-45min and I'm pretty throttle heavy.

As far as speed, I could only get the mojave up to 50-52 on 3s before it experienced lift. I'm sure the nascar would do better in that respect.

My Granite is also very fast on 3s. Prob a good mix of low end power and top end speed with factory gears. Never tried to clock it tho.

I'm curious, just to know, how one of these stock cars would do in a speed test.
I'm surprised to hear it goes so well with that tiny battery pack!

 

[Mrgoodwrench35]

A friend has a box stock car that he runs at the local track. I'll ask him. I only ran mine factory a couple of times before throwing all the shiny red stuff at it. I treat the nascar as a drift car, mainly run it in my garage around some scale cones.

I'm tempted to get another to give organized racing a shot. Seems to be a popular class.

 

[CertifiedMike]

A friend has a box stock car that he runs at the local track. I'll ask him. I only ran mine factory a couple of times before throwing all the shiny red stuff at it. I treat the nascar as a drift car, mainly run it in my garage around some scale cones.

I'm tempted to get another to give organized racing a shot. Seems to be a popular class.

I'll be happy if I ever get just my 1 Optima Mid project to the track to run!
If racing turns into something I really enjoy again, I'd try on road racing too.

I loved racing when I was younger!

I'm thinking maybe ppl are looking for a fun race experience without dumping a ton of money and time into the cars.
Seems like a great way to break into the hobby.

 

[xjtorc]

I still don't understand the hard pack rule.

The hard plastic adds another layer of protection to the cells in case the car wrecks bad and the lipo comes flying out. It’s a pretty universal rule at all of the tracks I’ve ever been to, even parking lot races. Trust me, you don’t want to be the guy who starts a lipo fire at the track. Ask me how I know.

 

[xjtorc]

I'm thinking maybe ppl are looking for a fun race experience without dumping a ton of money and time into the cars.
Seems like a great way to break into the hobby.

These are definitely perfect gateway drugs back into racing. My trigger finger is still itching to get one. My kids sports have taken over weekends, so it’s just crawlers for me at the moment but I can’t wait to get back to racing one day.

 

[CertifiedMike]

The hard plastic adds another layer of protection to the cells in case the car wrecks bad and the lipo comes flying out. It’s a pretty universal rule at all of the tracks I’ve ever been to, even parking lot races. Trust me, you don’t want to be the guy who starts a lipo fire at the track. Ask me how I know.

I understand what hard packs are supposed to do. I don't understand why they are necessary though. I watch trucks ( including my own) take a fairly good hammering, all soft pack.
I had a couple packs break free even and took a WAY harder hammering than ANYTHING I've done on the track... no fires.

Trapping the heat and the extra weight is my biggest issue I guess.

It FEELS like they are required, linked somehow to suppliers etc. Like its about sales. That feels dirty to me.

They are constantly coming up with rules that I don't understand.

Like why is there an IFMAR approved wheel? If they are the correct diameter and my buggy is legal width... no protruding spikes or silliness... WHY???

This effects me directly because Optima Mids have weird offset wheels right out of the box.
The appoved wheels look wonky and don't fit right.
Awesome!


I totally agree with these Losi's being a gateway car. I felt similarly about the sprint car they dropped.
I am not a Horizon fan but I do like that they are trying to reawake racing.
I can't help but think maybe the overwhelming desire to take $1500 to the skate park and beat the hell out of it until its broke, then costs another $300 in parts is starting to loose some of its appeal.
I think they are redirecting efforts to get folks back to the track.
Thats a plan I can get with!

 

[xjtorc]

It FEELS like they are required, linked somehow to suppliers etc. Like its about sales. That feels dirty to me.

They are constantly coming up with rules that I don't understand.

I’m pickin up what you’re putting down. Personally, I’ve caught a workstation on fire in a pit once and have a friend who lost his entire home to a lipo charging incident, so even if it’s an illusion of added safety, I subscribe. That might be the dumbest thing I’ve admitted to in a while, I just fear the lipo lol.

As far as corporate tie in to the rule book…you’re 100% on track there. Tracks with shops often use the rule book to force sales which I do NOT subscribe to. I will gladly stand at the parts counter and submit an Amazon order for a new doo-hickey because my doo-hackey is no longer “legal” by a BS standard.

 

[CertifiedMike]

I’m pickin up what you’re putting down. Personally, I’ve caught a workstation on fire in a pit once and have a friend who lost his entire home to a lipo charging incident, so even if it’s an illusion of added safety, I subscribe. That might be the dumbest thing I’ve admitted to in a while, I just fear the lipo lol.

As far as corporate tie in to the rule book…you’re 100% on track there. Tracks with shops often use the rule book to force sales which I do NOT subscribe to. I will gladly stand at the parts counter and submit an Amazon order for a new doo-hickey because my doo-hackey is no longer “legal” by a BS standard.

I have also heard a story about a lipo fire that resulted in home loss. Terrifying to think about certainly! I do understand your want for care and caution.
No one wants to get hurt doing something they love.

Lol @ online shopping in the hobby shop!
Forced 'upgrades' are BS for sure!
I don't think I would race at a track like that for very long.
I take a good amount of time, effort, money, pride in how I build and set up my cars. Right or wrong, they are mine.
It wouldn't take many 'emergency mods' in order to pass inspect before I looked for a different track.

Reminds me of chassis protectors when they became a thing.
"Can't use your tape but I can sell you APPROVED tape from AE for $23/foot."

 

[RustyUs]

I'm not sure what 2s stick your referencing. The only 2s that I have is the Zeee pictured next to the CNHL 3s and the factory 2s. The 3s pictured is the biggest pack I've found that fits without mods.

It looks like you could trim out some of the chassis bracing and fit a larger battery but I'd wonder about weight balance.

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Fitment of a run of the mill/typical 139x47x25mm 2S LiPo stick pack...

... and I would have the Losi 1/12 scale on order already.

 

[Mrgoodwrench35]

I'm curious, just to know, how one of these stock cars would do in a speed test.

I asked my buddy but he wasn't sure either so we did a speed test. 23mph was the best we got box stock.