you're very right about numbers. Alls I'm sayin is that his numbers (because they are impressive) seem to be the first thing that some Gordon fans turn to when they run into somebody they think may be a Gordon hater. I sort of got that impression about you from you're previous post but you seem to be more fair than that. I for one am not a Gordon hater. I feel that a lot of people kinda gang up on him because he's easy to dislike because so many people dislike him. Just like Jr., it's easy to be a Jr. fan when half of the nascar fans you know are Jr. fans. Honestly I don't think he's quite the whiner that a lot of people make him out to be. I mean c'mon, if you were a race car driver and it we're raining wouldn't you complain...? He got put out of the shootout today and didn't even seem that upset about it. But nobody will give him any credit for being relaxed. The haters will just wait until he complains about something so they can have another unjust reason to complain about the complainer they hate so much. sorry to rant, oh and I was referring to J.G.'s sideburns.