Mild brushless or old school brushed for re-released Associated?

[9x19]

I have this 'friend' who has these Associated re-release kits (still in the box):

RC-10 Classic
RC-10 T
RC-10 DS

My 'friend' has been trying to decide between a mild brushless (2S / 3200kv) setup or going old-school brushed with a vintage style 540.

Thoughts?

 

[CertifiedMike]

...who has these Associated re-release kits (still in the box):

RC-10 Classic
RC-10 T
RC-10 DS

My 'friend' been trying to decide between a mild brushless (2S / 3200kv) setup or going old-school brushed with a vintage style 540.

Thoughts?

I have a 'friend' who has similar questions... 'he'll' be watching this!

 

[Doom!]

...who has these Associated re-release kits (still in the box):

RC-10 Classic
RC-10 T
RC-10 DS

My 'friend' has been trying to decide between a mild brushless (2S / 3200kv) setup or going old-school brushed with a vintage style 540.

Thoughts?

Does this friend intend on driving these?

 

[CertifiedMike]

Does this friend intend on driving these?

I agree. What are the plans for these cars? Nostalgia racing might require brushed for example.
Then... does this friend already have any vintage gear?
Does your friend intend to use lipos? No lvc in og brushed systems. Is there an inline low voltage cut off or just alarms?

 

[PewPewChris]

...who has these Associated re-release kits (still in the box):

RC-10 Classic
RC-10 T
RC-10 DS

My 'friend' has been trying to decide between a mild brushless (2S / 3200kv) setup or going old-school brushed with a vintage style 540.

Thoughts?

Does this "friend" also have a "girlfriend" that lives in Niagra Falls?

 

[Chubaka]

...who has these Associated re-release kits (still in the box):

RC-10 Classic
RC-10 T
RC-10 DS

My 'friend' has been trying to decide between a mild brushless (2S / 3200kv) setup or going old-school brushed with a vintage style 540.

Thoughts?

Both?

 

[CertifiedMike]

My friend just bought a pair of esc's and a motor from Hobbywing's Black Friday Specials.
Wow cheap!

 

[9x19]

RC-10s, once built will probably be run a couple times each year, no sanctioned racing intended, just fun stuff.

 

[ahr43]

Sensorless mild brushless. 3200/3300Kv, 60A ESC, 2s x 5000 100C LiPo. -AC

 

[9x19]

Sensorless mild brushless. 3200/3300Kv, 60A ESC, 2s x 5000 100C LiPo. -AC

Thanks for the input... that's the easiest route, I think.

 

[GotNoRice]

I think that you really have to consider what the vehicle is going to be used for, and how it's going to be driven. The sensorless brushless system will be better for driving fast, particularly on high-traction surfaces. But the brushed system will have far better throttle control at low speeds. For a lightweight fragile 2WD vehicle like an RC10, having good low-speed throttle control will be essential, especially on low-traction surfaces. You would need to go with a sensored brushless system to get the same level of low-speed throttle control that you get with brushed. With a lightweight vehicle using a sensorless brushless system on a low-traction surface, the usable throttle range between cogging and doing donuts, where the car is actually drivable, will be frustratingly tiny.

I found this out the hard way when I got back into RC 10-15 years ago, and immedatly went for an RC10 (RC10B4.1) based on nostalgic memories of my old RC10 as a kid in the 1990's. I went with the sensorless brushless version because I thought it would be better. It turned out to be a terrible vehicle for my use case. It felt like it was 100% built for the track, which is not where I usually run my vehicles. The RC10 became a shelf-queen and I went almost exclusivly with Traxxas after that. But later on I found that simply putting a brushed system in the RC10 instead really tamed the vehicle, made it much more usable on random surfaces, and ultimatly made it feel a lot more like the RC10 I had as a kid.

 

[nino]

Not into vintage RC's at all, but Ithink that a brushed system would be more appropriate too. And smoother, unless it's a mechanical speed control, but they don't make those anymore, right? Well maybe Tamiya does, it wouldn't surprise me. So anyway...
Why not brushed, it can be powerful enough and durability/efficiency isn't a concern on something that won't be driven every day.

 

[Suburban_Hooligan]

I'm currently putting together an original short arm 6 gear car my thoughts on this car are keep it close to original power. I'm pretty sure I'm going with a 21.5 motor. no idea what esc ill use. and a 2s lipo. i have all the old brushed motors/esc's for it i just don't want to deal with the maintenance for a car that ill only drive maybe 5 times a year. I'm willing to trade off nostalgia for being able to keep it perfectly functional while being lazy.

and I'm running an original stealth gearbox long arm car with graphite chassis on a 17.5 motor. which seems almost perfect for the car.
and iv got a rereleased worlds car also on a 17.5. the extra weight is noticeable and I'm kicking around putting a 13.5 in it.

 

[RustyUs]

Brushless. Final answer.

 

[Chubaka]

Brushless. Final answer.

I wouldn't brush off a brushed system for nostalgia and shelf sitting.

 

[CertifiedMike]

I thought if you already had a brushed system to plug in and try, it would answer some questions.
A fun comparison might be the progression in models, time and technology. It would be cool on the shelf like that too.
Its not like you can screw up an RC10 really!

 

[Lumikko]

Mild brushless is the way to go for low-maintenance fun, in my opinion. You can set it up to have similar power as we used to have back then, but far, far more runtime than the 5 minutes we used to get.

Brushed will be necessary for racing with luddites, and may not be a bad choice anyway if you don’t drive that much.

 

[9x19]

Thanks everyone for the input.

I was digging around in my box o' stuff and found some un-used basic brushless combos that I think will work ok.

Bought several of these a couple years back when Amazon had them cheap... then forgot about them.

 

[ahr43]

The Onyx combo looks good. Since it's an AE re-re build, perhaps consider a Reedy install? Just a thought. -AC

 

[9x19]

But it's almost TA blue.

I did think about Reedy, looked at their stuff on their Exchange program, but these are in hand and not ear-marked for anything else, so...