Looking For a RTR Buggy!! Need Help!!

[Rotorxhead7]

Whats up,
Me and my boy were looking into racing buggies around the local tracks! What would be a good Race worthy RTR Buggy to purchace?
I found that Hot Bidies,Koyosho,Ofna,Jammin,RD Logics, and xray all make RTR Buggies!?!

The Hyper 7 caught my eye! but i dont now anything about buggies.

any info or help is very useful!!!!

thanks ~joe

 

[RatzoRC]

Just a question, Why not get a kit, so you can learn all the parts and how they work.
This will be helpfull when you need to repair the buggy.
And you will need to repair it.
Just a question.

 

[Rotorxhead7]

cause i dont have $1,000 to drop on a kit sir...sorry I'm a full time student looking for work...i would love to get a kit but i can't cut everything else i need for a kit!!

 

[Jeep]

Early January I purchased a Hyper 7 PBS RTR, and I couldn't be happier with it.
It is my absolute first nitro RC, and out of all of the advice I've read, the only negative remarks were about the rtr Tx and the servos. The advice about both were correct, the Tx was very basic but usable , and I stripped the stock steering servo in less than half a gallon of fuel. But, I believe it is fairly normal ,from what I've read, that most if not all RTR kits come with the more basic and cheaper electronics and servos.

Jeep

 

[RatzoRC]

Early January I purchased a Hyper 7 PBS RTR, and I couldn't be happier with it.
It is my absolute first nitro RC, and out of all of the advice I've read, the only negative remarks were about the rtr Tx and the servos. The advice about both were correct, the Tx was very basic but usable , and I stripped the stock steering servo in less than half a gallon of fuel. But, I believe it is fairly normal ,from what I've read, that most if not all RTR kits come with the more basic and cheaper electronics and servos.

Jeep

My thoughts exactly!
Hyper 7 is a great choice.

Sorry about my kit question. I didn't realize that you were on a budget.

 

[Rotorxhead7]

Just a question, Why not get a kit, so you can learn all the parts and how they work.
This will be helpfull when you need to repair the buggy.
And you will need to repair it.
Just a question.

you dont have to say your sorry about that!!! I should have said it in the post more clearly!!

I think me and my buddy are gonna go with Ofna!!

thanks for the help!!


can you also get more in depth on what happened to it in reguards to the servo and stripping? whats that all about??
thanks again joe!

 

[SpitFireV12RR]

The basic principal of stripping is wearing something out till it's usless. A servo has a motor, that turns little gears, which turns whatever its driving(A servo horn). Much like a screw driver that is too strong for the screw(Or Vice-Versa), the motor is trying too hard to the point where the wheels won't turn, but the motor is still trying to turn those cheap plastic gears, till it makes the gears that turn the servo horn on top, have no teeth, and that in turn makes it turn nothing, which pretty much screws up your whole day unless you have extras lying around.

That might sound weird, but it's pretty much what stripping is.

 

[Jeep]

you dont have to say your sorry about that!!! I should have said it in the post more clearly!!

I think me and my buddy are gonna go with Ofna!!

thanks for the help!!


can you also get more in depth on what happened to it in reguards to the servo and stripping? whats that all about??
thanks again joe!

Well, the stock servo was an ofna sx-0001 and, there was no impact at all to the car, in fact I didn't realize it had begun to strip out until I shut the buggy down for the day. While doing a little cleaning I slowly move the front wheels from side to side, and felt a little sudden movement and no servo travel. I dug into the servo, and one of the very thin plastic gears had lost a few teeth. I expected that, as I said per advice here on a servo upgrade. I went with a hitech 645 and it is not only stronger torque-wise, but quicker, and the actual weight difference is obvious comparing the 2 servos.
I've seen the sx-0001 on ebay for about $5.00, the hitech 645 ran about $40.00, and it seems you get what you pay for in many ways with these lil rigs.
I havn't opened the 645 servo up , but it probably has metal gears instead of plastic. And definitely has more torque than the stock servo.

Jeep

 

[Jeep]

The basic principal of stripping is wearing something out till it's usless. A servo has a motor, that turns little gears, which turns whatever its driving(A servo horn). Much like a screw driver that is too strong for the screw(Or Vice-Versa), the motor is trying too hard to the point where the wheels won't turn, but the motor is still trying to turn those cheap plastic gears, till it makes the gears that turn the servo horn on top, have no teeth, and that in turn makes it turn nothing, which pretty much screws up your whole day unless you have extras lying around.

That might sound weird, but it's pretty much what stripping is.

Not to contradict you spitfire, but stripping a gear set is usually lastly caused by normal wear, or "wearing out".
In most cases "stripping" a gear-set out is due to a sudden or high torque applied to the gear set of which it wasn't designed to deal with.

The last and most improbable cause of a gear "stripping teeth" is from "wearing out"
Slack from gears and possibly a whine from gears are symptoms of "wear", but only in extreme cases do gears strip from "wear".

Jeep

 

[Tarant]

I have only got to run my Hyper 7 PBS a little bit, but it is a good solid buggy, i am very happy with it.

 

[HeartBreak]

I havn't opened the 645 servo up , but it probably has metal gears instead of plastic. And definitely has more torque than the stock servo.

Jeep

If it is a 645MG, it has metal gears (the MG in the model number denotes that). I run 'em in my buggy for steering, and haven't had a problem at all.

 

[Jeep]

If it is a 645MG, it has metal gears (the MG in the model number denotes that). I run 'em in my buggy for steering, and haven't had a problem at all.

Cool to know, thanks Heartbreak, mine is the 645MG, glad to know for sure now

Jeep

 

[Rotorxhead7]

What about the Jammin X1-CR? i know its a kit but i really wanna reace something worth racing!!

 

[AC48]

I would also suggest a kit if possible, but two RTRs that I hear are great are the Jammin X1-CR and the Sportwerks Mayhem RTR. Also I hear good thigs about the Hyper 7 but that one is already being disscussed.

The kit version of the Jammin is a great buggy, and I have heard the RTR version is a solid buggy. A lot of people like the mayhem too, it comes with a FM radio which is a plus. Check into those too.

 

[Rotorxhead7]

yeh i think I'm going to get a kit for a change so i think I'm gonna go with the Jammin X1-CR!!

I'm really torn because my local hobby shop just got alot of land and there gonna build a track and run 3 main classes Buggy, Truggy, and MT.

I own a Stock Jato and a T-Maxx with an o.s. 18.TZ upgrade. I was planning on getting my feet wet racing the tmaxx but i really wanted to race truggy, buggy or both!!

I Def wanna try and run both Buggy and truggy but I dont have either of the 2!!!!

Now I'm at the point where I'm gonna get one RTR and one KIT But idk what i should get in a kit and rtr!?!?!

I was thinking i could get the
HPI Hellfire (RTR) and the Jammin X1-CR (Kit)
Or
I was thinking Got the J
Jammin X1-CRT (KIT) and the SportWerks Mayhem(RTR)

in a perfect world ide get both Jammin X1-CR and the X1-CRT but i can't afford to build 2 kits b4 race season!!

any ideas or input?

 

[retarded pilot]

i just want to make sure you know that kits dont include engine, radio, servo's, & sometimes dont include tires ...I'm only saying this because yesterday you said you were on a tight budget, now your thinking about buying a kit & a rtr

 

[Plaidfish]

425 shipped....you never replied to PM.....truthfully if you are looking for a decent starter buggy that is loaded, you won't find a nicer one in this price range.....I think others who have recieved stuff from me can say I DON'T DEAL CRAP......this is exactly if not better than I descibed it in the for sale thread

this isn't trying to force you into a choice......rather show you an option.....

 

[vbgagnon]

Just the radio gear in that thing sells for 125+, the servo's another 100+, engine with aftermarket head 125++, tuned pipe 50+, just this is 400 plus the buggy itself, tires, extra body ($25) can't go wrong with that! Plaid is a stand up guy! Don't worry about dealing with him.

 

[Rotorxhead7]

i just want to make sure you know that kits dont include engine, radio, servo's, & sometimes dont include tires ...I'm only saying this because yesterday you said you were on a tight budget, now your thinking about buying a kit & a rtr

I'm looking to get a new buggy and a new truggy but i dont know what Jammin Kit is better? the X1-CR or the X1-CRT

I know i said i wanted a rtr b4 but the money doesn't matter to me anymore!!
I want to get a pro kit and build it and focous on racing that one kit and mid july I'm gonna get what everone i didnt getfor my B-Day. So lets just say the RTR is free and I'm on the market for the better kit alot sooner!!!!

Bottom Line Question I'm going to be racing Both Classes so what Jammin Kit is better overall? What in theory would be the better racing rig?


Also Pladfish: that buggy is sick and ill def consider I'm just looking to do the right thing the first time!?!

 

[Plaidfish]

I'm not going to lie and say it's better than the Jammin...it's good mid level buggy w/ a lot of good stuff to start someone out with.....it's also been upgraded to what most of their team drivers used to run from what I understand....It's smoked it's fair share of top shelf buggies under my superior pro like driving style...LOL....well the first part of that is true....VB hit it right...basically I'm selling all the respectable parts to throw on a pro kit and giving an almost new hopped up buggy away for real cheap......

If money is no problem you should look at mugen / Kyosho / Xray.....those are just the top line stuff.....the jammin is nice and competes well w/ those but it doesn't offer the adjustabillity the others do.....the durability is better on the top shelf stuff.....for instance..the 9.5 (above) has less than 1.5 gallons on the chassis...I replaced the diff gears (w/ hardened ones) and all the bearings on the driveline.....in less than 2 gallons the stock stuff didn't last....I replaced them w/ better stuff....the Xray I ran almost 9 gallons on it and it had almost 2 before I bought it....I just replaced all the bearings...and still have teh original diff gears....those type of things are what you pay all the high dollars for on pro kits.....OR you do what I did w/ the OFNA & my T-maxx...you just replace things as needed with way better parts.....so you either pay up front a lil more or pay it out later in drips and drabs but the total is WAY more than the pro kits are......