I got a used typhon

[Doom!]

@majin you should ask the guys on the Arrma forum. They will get you pointed in the right direction.

 

[WickedFog]

this appears to be upgraded like i would do it
meaning half assed/ the motor and esc are upgraded but none of the rest is,
so yes i HAVE 6s power but am unable to run it on that without destruction.
what do i search for ?
you modded your mega, what did you mod it with? random parts? or parts from something specific? I'm learning as i go still

I feel we need a reality check here man. Not trying to be mean, or disagreeable. This is just my opinion based on owning a 3s Granite, which is basically the same as a 3s brushless Typhon, which is far stronger than your Typhon Mega. And our Granite doesn't even handle 3s well. I would never try running it on 4s unless I was just doing speed runs.

You're trying to take a car that wasn't even designed to handle 3s power, and run 4s on it. TunedFrog has already tried this after upgrading his and has told you how fragile it still is, even with the upgrades he has done. Regardless of what motor and ESC the original owner put in it, it's not going to handle 4s unless you are just doing speed runs. Meaning no on and off throttle, no bashing around, and high gearing, which will put far less strain on the gearing and other drivetrain components. It'll likely only hold up in straight line runs, easing on and off the throttle.

You are already finding how expensive this is going to get, because you have basically smoked the entire drivetrain. By the time you get all your parts upgraded, you can probably buy a 3s Typhon and just swap your motor/ESC over to it. Although like I said, unless you're building a speed runner, this 6s motor would be detrimental to the longevity of the drivetrain, even in the beefier built 3s model.

The first things I would suggest along with a completely new spur assembly is at least find some metal diffs. Stock diff gearing for the 3s Typhon is 37t. RCAWD seems to have a lot of upgrades for the 3s Typhon, so I'd maybe start looking there. A metal driveshaft, metal CVD's, and all new bearing set is some other stuff I would get.

With all that power, I am betting the original owner didn't even adjust the slipper from the looks of it. It was likely slipping with the onroad tires you have on there getting a lot more grip. That generated a ton of heat and melted it. I wouldn't be surprised if that heat didn't transfer to your diff housing and soften the bearing journals.

One other thing I would like to add is for you to go on Amain and look at 6s RC's. Look at how much aluminum is used in the chassis and other components. And most of them have 7075 aircraft aluminum chassis. They weigh a ton compared to 3s models, and are built so much stronger. Now look at your Typhon Mega which is 90% plastic. It's not designed for that kind of power. The plastic flexes, causing gear meshes to go out of spec, creating wear, heat, etc. And no matter how much you want to run it on 4s, you're just going to keep throwing money at it to keep it running, albeit for brief moments before it smokes the next part.

 

[majin]

I feel we need a reality check here man. Not trying to be mean, or disagreeable. This is just my opinion based on owning a 3s Granite, which is basically the same as a 3s brushless Typhon, which is far stronger than your Typhon Mega. And our Granite doesn't even handle 3s well. I would never try running it on 4s unless I was just doing speed runs.

You're trying to take a car that wasn't even designed to handle 3s power, and run 4s on it. TunedFrog has already tried this after upgrading his and has told you how fragile it still is, even with the upgrades he has done. Regardless of what motor and ESC the original owner put in it, it's not going to handle 4s unless you are just doing speed runs. Meaning no on and off throttle, no bashing around, and high gearing, which will put far less strain on the gearing and other drivetrain components. It'll likely only hold up in straight line runs, easing on and off the throttle.

You are already finding how expensive this is going to get, because you have basically smoked the entire drivetrain. By the time you get all your parts upgraded, you can probably buy a 3s Typhon and just swap your motor/ESC over to it. Although like I said, unless you're building a speed runner, this 6s motor would be detrimental to the longevity of the drivetrain, even in the beefier built 3s model.

The first things I would suggest along with a completely new spur assembly is at least find some metal diffs. Stock diff gearing for the 3s Typhon is 37t. RCAWD seems to have a lot of upgrades for the 3s Typhon, so I'd maybe start looking there. A metal driveshaft, metal CVD's, and all new bearing set is some other stuff I would get.

With all that power, I am betting the original owner didn't even adjust the slipper from the looks of it. It was likely slipping with the onroad tires you have on there getting a lot more grip. That generated a ton of heat and melted it. I wouldn't be surprised if that heat didn't transfer to your diff housing and soften the bearing journals.

One other thing I would like to add is for you to go on Amain and look at 6s RC's. Look at how much aluminum is used in the chassis and other components. And most of them have 7075 aircraft aluminum chassis. They weigh a ton compared to 3s models, and are built so much stronger. Now look at your Typhon Mega which is 90% plastic. It's not designed for that kind of power. The plastic flexes, causing gear meshes to go out of spec, creating wear, heat, etc. And no matter how much you want to run it on 4s, you're just going to keep throwing money at it to keep it running, albeit for brief moments before it smokes the next part.

first off. I'm heartbroken. second off. I'm not ok with buying all that lol
second off. how would that be disagreeable or argumentative lol
its informative is what it is.
i was just hoping there was a way of repairing it. seems thats not REALLY feasable.
thirdly is not a total loss. i got a honker of a motor and esc for a future project for 100 bucks.

probly best to let this guy set on a shelf for awhile and just take apart as i go.
if nothing else, i now know how much i like this I'm definately getting a "real" one lol
of course i want the big bad 6s lol but i am gonna take my gurus advice, and leaning towards the 3s and just being happy till i get a handle on it THEN get into the 6s game.

now i gotta figure out what to do with this motor and esc lolol
we all know I'm gonna do SOMETHING with it...... naw is goin in a box till i have a platform capable of handling it

I feel we need a reality check here man. Not trying to be mean, or disagreeable. This is just my opinion based on owning a 3s Granite, which is basically the same as a 3s brushless Typhon, which is far stronger than your Typhon Mega. And our Granite doesn't even handle 3s well. I would never try running it on 4s unless I was just doing speed runs.

You're trying to take a car that wasn't even designed to handle 3s power, and run 4s on it. TunedFrog has already tried this after upgrading his and has told you how fragile it still is, even with the upgrades he has done. Regardless of what motor and ESC the original owner put in it, it's not going to handle 4s unless you are just doing speed runs. Meaning no on and off throttle, no bashing around, and high gearing, which will put far less strain on the gearing and other drivetrain components. It'll likely only hold up in straight line runs, easing on and off the throttle.

You are already finding how expensive this is going to get, because you have basically smoked the entire drivetrain. By the time you get all your parts upgraded, you can probably buy a 3s Typhon and just swap your motor/ESC over to it. Although like I said, unless you're building a speed runner, this 6s motor would be detrimental to the longevity of the drivetrain, even in the beefier built 3s model.

The first things I would suggest along with a completely new spur assembly is at least find some metal diffs. Stock diff gearing for the 3s Typhon is 37t. RCAWD seems to have a lot of upgrades for the 3s Typhon, so I'd maybe start looking there. A metal driveshaft, metal CVD's, and all new bearing set is some other stuff I would get.

With all that power, I am betting the original owner didn't even adjust the slipper from the looks of it. It was likely slipping with the onroad tires you have on there getting a lot more grip. That generated a ton of heat and melted it. I wouldn't be surprised if that heat didn't transfer to your diff housing and soften the bearing journals.

One other thing I would like to add is for you to go on Amain and look at 6s RC's. Look at how much aluminum is used in the chassis and other components. And most of them have 7075 aircraft aluminum chassis. They weigh a ton compared to 3s models, and are built so much stronger. Now look at your Typhon Mega which is 90% plastic. It's not designed for that kind of power. The plastic flexes, causing gear meshes to go out of spec, creating wear, heat, etc. And no matter how much you want to run it on 4s, you're just going to keep throwing money at it to keep it running, albeit for brief moments before it smokes the next part.

also this... so much i gotta read up on much much appreciation for this long post bro it helped me a lot

 

[majin]

@majin you should ask the guys on the Arrma forum. They will get you pointed in the right direction.

I'm scared of them... they all have beast rigs is intimidating lol

 

[Tunedfrog]

Mine broke just doing speed runs at the sand dunes on 4s.

 

[majin]

Mine broke just doing speed runs at the sand dunes on 4s.

i wasn't understanding well enough, i was thinking cause those 2 parts are upgraded the rest would i dunno just work? lol
I'm not trying for speed runs, unless I'm jumping something while I'm at it lol, some sand dunes would be wicked fun to rip up.
thanks for all the advice on stuff n things with it. sadness has engulfed my life.....
nah. I'm not that guy pal lol
am on the market for a new one so i can be the first to break it!
this way i can upgrade as i go and hopefully not go overboard all at once with it. ease into the different s-cattegories lol

 

[WickedFog]

first off. I'm heartbroken. second off. I'm not ok with buying all that lol
second off. how would that be disagreeable or argumentative lol
its informative is what it is.
i was just hoping there was a way of repairing it. seems thats not REALLY feasable.
thirdly is not a total loss. i got a honker of a motor and esc for a future project for 100 bucks.

probly best to let this guy set on a shelf for awhile and just take apart as i go.
if nothing else, i now know how much i like this I'm definately getting a "real" one lol
of course i want the big bad 6s lol but i am gonna take my gurus advice, and leaning towards the 3s and just being happy till i get a handle on it THEN get into the 6s game.

now i gotta figure out what to do with this motor and esc lolol
we all know I'm gonna do SOMETHING with it...... naw is goin in a box till i have a platform capable of handling it


also this... so much i gotta read up on much much appreciation for this long post bro it helped me a lot

You could always go to www.jennys.com and buy the parts from the 3s Typhon and slowly fix it up into a 3s rig. Our 3s Granite is a blast to drive.

@Warby might have some other input.

 

[Tunedfrog]

motor mount ,
center drive shaft bearing
slipper assebly.
keep mind, a steel spur will transfer the hard shock to a weaker part.

 

[majin]

i dunno i was looking at the jennysrc idea, of getting 3s parts instead, looks like i could get the parts from there piece by piece for around 100 bucks
including those you listed ( was HELLA stoked that i had already put them in cart before suggested, means I'm learning)
man.... i had just decided to shelve this thing and now its right back at me lol i love it

but then I'm also looking at needing a new chassis as this one has a chunk missing and I'm sure there are a myriad of other issues that I'm afraid by the time i put all that into it id have a fragile 3s for about the same price....

 

[Warby]

You could always go to www.jennys.com and buy the parts from the 3s Typhon and slowly fix it up into a 3s rig. Our 3s Granite is a blast to drive.

@Warby might have some other input.

Happy to help but not sure that the question is.

 

[WickedFog]

i dunno i was looking at the jennysrc idea, of getting 3s parts instead, looks like i could get the parts from there piece by piece for around 100 bucks
including those you listed ( was HELLA stoked that i had already put them in cart before suggested, means I'm learning)
man.... i had just decided to shelve this thing and now its right back at me lol i love it

but then I'm also looking at needing a new chassis as this one has a chunk missing and I'm sure there are a myriad of other issues that I'm afraid by the time i put all that into it id have a fragile 3s for about the same price....

Fortunately, the chassis on Jenny's is fairly cheap. If it were me, I would tear that Typhon apart and see what I have that's good. Then look at Jenny's at the 3s parts and see how much it would cost to buy everything I needed to finish the kit. You'll also need a motor and ESC. The stock 3s motor and ESC isn't bad, but I would probably go with a Hobbywing equivalent.

Another thing I would do is look at upgraded parts instead of stock replacements. Metal diffs, cvd's and a metal driveshaft would be good upgrades.

If after figuring what all that will cost, and you're still at or near the cost of a new Typhon (or even less), I say go for it. If it can be done, you'll have an upgraded Typhon for less than a new stock Typhon

Happy to help but not sure that the question is.

I was just wondering if you had any thoughts on upgrading a Typhon to handle 4s power. Or even upgrades to make it more durable on 3s.

 

[Warby]

Fortunately, the chassis on Jenny's is fairly cheap. If it were me, I would tear that Typhon apart and see what I have that's good. Then look at Jenny's at the 3s parts and see how much it would cost to buy everything I needed to finish the kit. You'll also need a motor and ESC. The stock 3s motor and ESC isn't bad, but I would probably go with a Hobbywing equivalent.

Another thing I would do is look at upgraded parts instead of stock replacements. Metal diffs, cvd's and a metal driveshaft would be good upgrades.

If after figuring what all that will cost, and you're still at or near the cost of a new Typhon (or even less), I say go for it. If it can be done, you'll have an upgraded Typhon for less than a new stock Typhon


I was just wondering if you had any thoughts on upgrading a Typhon to handle 4s power. Or even upgrades to make it more durable on 3s.

For bashing? Offroad? I would keep the 3s Arrma's on 3s. The mega's can be converted to 3s.

They will handle 4s for a while depending on the operators driving style and mechanical sympathy but in the long term 4s will prematurely wear and break parts.

The driveshaft uni joints will fail on 3s with hard bashing so will let go even quicker on 4s. The plastic diffs will leave the chat faster on 4s.

If it is to be bashed on 4s, I would consider upgrading the diffs to the metal 4s diffs and also the slipper assembly(or convert it to a 4s v2 center diff assy). But at that stage it will start getting expensive so I consider just buying a 4s rig or just run 3s.

The driveshafts to each wheel is the weakest point IMHO. The uni joint in them to be more specific. There are aftermarket "upgrades" but they too have their issues from what I've seen (or read). I just keep spare standard Arrma shafts on hand.

TLDR: for bashing, it will handle 4s but for a shortened time period. If you want more reliability, stay on 3s. If you are considering upgrade it to handle 4s, consider just buying a 4s rig.

Hope this helps

 

[Doom!]

Just be happy you didn't have a 6S Typhon or you'd be missing a lot more flesh on your foot.

You really need a decent amount of open space to truly enjoy a good basher. You'll get there.

 

[majin]

so it begins....

just gonna pick up the parts a few at a time when i have spare cash and happen to be working in a town with a hobbyshop

 

[WickedFog]

just gonna pick up the parts a few at a time when i have spare cash and happen to be working in a town with a hobbyshop

Good idear

 

[Doom!]

so it begins....

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View attachment 194999just gonna pick up the parts a few at a time when i have spare cash and happen to be working in a town with a hobbyshop

Your are one tenacious son of a gun, that's why I love you man!

 

[majin]

https://jennysrc.com/products/arrma...mbly-diff-57t-ar102696?variant=19223461396534

will this fit my chasis? it says
Direct Fit all these 4x4 3s BLX models: Big Rock 4x4 3s Typhon 4x4 3s
i have

TYPHON MEGA 550 BRUSHED 4WD SPEED BUGGY RTR, GREEN​

but i do want to keep it brushless. I'm not going to put a brushed motor on it but i am going to dial it back down to 3 s
need motor and esc eventually, but thats still to be researched as I'm not ready to drop 100 on anyhting for it as of yet.
jennys has a few of the parts that i need ready to go.
at this point I'm just getting the obvious items. I'm hopeful the diffs arent stripped bare lol they turned really "normal" i think i made a video of it....
i DID make a video. do these look ok? I'm hoping i can take em out clean em up and throw em in new case?

 

[WickedFog]

Diff gears look good. Fill the case up with diff fluid when you rebuild.