How do you set up your shocks

[White_Crow_G]

Hi Folks.
The question is how do you find your shocks making you happy oils and springs wise.
as an instance :
i have my Hobao TT2.0 rig running. i maintenance shocks, fill it up with 600 oil...go to the track and I'm not happy with it.
Every jump it'll slap the ground.
in my case i don't have to many options of springs. just soft and stiff

So mainly the question is (for me personally) how to get rid if that slap and keep car drivable (for my wl 144010 solution was just to put 1k oil and it works fine...no way i can drive it but it doesn't slap anymore)

 

[majin]

@Littlemotor messes with those truggies and is who i would ask, i think you need a thicker weight oil, so it slows the plunger down more, but I'm not the best with shocks, i crawl much more than i go fast.

 

[xjtorc]

The easy answer is thicker fluid and stiffer springs but all vehicles are so drastically different that it’s hard to give an answer on this without being hands on.

Is it the front and rear slapping together or only the rear?

Also, are you running the shock configuration per the manual’s setup recommendations?

 

[RustyUs]

I was trying to convey "pack" in the TT 2.0 thread. Smaller piston holes are what I'm after for that platform's shocks. I always start with stock oils; fluids, and springs when working with a new/unknown platform. Tweek one's shocks to handle the terrain you run on.

 

[RustyUs]

So Dialed is one of my favorite places to go to refresh/research/learn about tuning a RC vehicle. It has some great stuff that will engulf you for hours on your journey.

Tekno RC Setup Guide: https://www.teknorc.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/Set_Up_Guide.pdf
Hudy Off-Road Set Up Book: https://storage.googleapis.com/sodi...-reference/hudy%20off-road%20setup%20book.pdf
Traxxas Suspention 101: https://traxxas.com/articles/suspension-tuning-guide-part1
Buggy Setup Wizard: https://rcgarage.info/SetupWizard?f...eK5YkBgEwomKYOs1vitdhL_gSLYqVCCpcA5vfy3C-JIo4

 

[RustyUs]

Hi Folks.
The question is how do you find your shocks making you happy oils and springs wise.
as an instance :
i have my Hobao TT2.0 rig running. i maintenance shocks, fill it up with 600 oil...go to the track and I'm not happy with it.
Every jump it'll slap the ground.
in my case i don't have to many options of springs. just soft and stiff

So mainly the question is (for me personally) how to get rid if that slap and keep car drivable (for my wl 144010 solution was just to put 1k oil and it works fine...no way i can drive it but it doesn't slap anymore)

I see so many "basher" platform threads suggest buying uber stiff springs to stop an 18lb. RC vehicle falling out of the sky I use springs that I'm dealt with (provided in a kit) for only setting ride height... that's it. Choosing to go with softer/firmer springs is one of the last things I look at doing and only for corner speed tuning. Pistons and oil are what you will need to focus on to slow down damping to minimize chassis slap. Note: having some chassis slap perfectly fine

 

[Ramp addict]

For trucks without a manual like a 4x4 Slash with a 1/8th 3s buggy power setup, I start with springs that put the preloads in the middle of their adjustment and my best guess for shock fluid. Then I take the truck for a drive. I drive mostly dirt parks so I like my shocks a bit stiff and a little on the fast side.

 

[Cheetah928]

I switch shock oil weight when I need to chance the oil if I don't like the way it drives. I'll just drive it around every so often and have my box of spring spacers with me so I can change that too. I'm pretty simple

 

[White_Crow_G]

I'm sorry guys.
I did ask a question and just disappear.
Thank you for all your comments. i'll read them all straight away

 

[White_Crow_G]

Sad. most of the comments are springs and oil related.
as i mentioned before - i'm 100% happy how it drives.
if i will thicker the oil - it will drive noticeable different, same with springs.

My main asking is... just imagine you building you super-drupper brand new rig.
Built shocks and install them...
drop the car on a table and notice "thats a beas! he'll drive and jump perfectly"
i mean - what is your procedure to start with (lets imagine you don't have stock setup guide or you not happy with it)

 

[White_Crow_G]

I see so many "basher" platform threads suggest buying uber stiff springs to stop an 18lb. RC vehicle falling out of the sky I use springs that I'm dealt with (provided in a kit) for only setting ride height... that's it. Choosing to go with softer/firmer springs is one of the last things I look at doing and only for corner speed tuning. Pistons and oil are what you will need to focus on to slow down damping to minimize chassis slap. Note: having some chassis slap perfectly fine

Well, my friend - you saw those photos. i don't think it's fine

 

[Cheetah928]

Well, I guess I'm kinda confused how to help you. Like is it suspension geometry, ride height, an entire rebuild, could you specify a bit more?

 

[Littlemotor]

It NEEDS to “slap the ground” with every single landing sir.

 

[White_Crow_G]

well, hope this will explain

 

[Littlemotor]

well, hope this will explain
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Setting up your suspension to not allow the chassis to make contact with the driving surface is a “band-aid” at best, and will undoubtedly cause problems as your shocks are NOT designed to be treated that way. You can install lengths of fuel tubing over your shock shafts to limit the travel, but you’ll start breaking related parts-standoff’s, rod ends, arms, towers, etc..

The move here is to get off the asphalt surface period.

 

[WickedFog]

Get you a chassis protector if you're worried about it.

 

[White_Crow_G]

It NEEDS to “slap the ground” with every single landing sir.

I appreciate. i think - i need to take a video to better describe what exactly i'm not happy about. seams like my eng not allows me to explain )
i'll try to do it today

 

[TeknoJ]

I have to second the suggestion of keeping this off the asphalt. If you are jumping on concrete or asphalt and the car receives this damage as a result, then......
The only thing you can do is come up with a skid plate to protect your A block (or whatever it is), or go with thicker shock oil/ different pistons perhaps to slow down the shocks?
Ideally, the chassis should slap the ground after a landing to prevent the shocks and other parts from taking the grunt of that blow. If it were me, I would just run this thing in dirt or off-road. The asphalt is chewing that thing up. Bare minimum, don't be jumping it on asphalt.

 

[White_Crow_G]

I have to second the suggestion of keeping this off the asphalt. If you are jumping on concrete or asphalt and the car receives this damage as a result, then......
The only thing you can do is come up with a skid plate to protect your A block (or whatever it is), or go with thicker shock oil/ different pistons perhaps to slow down the shocks?
Ideally, the chassis should slap the ground after a landing to prevent the shocks and other parts from taking the grunt of that blow. If it were me, I would just run this thing in dirt or off-road. The asphalt is chewing that thing up. Bare minimum, don't be jumping it on asphalt.

Thank you
Unfortunately, the only one rump i have around is in skatepark...i'm talking about rump with landing.
As i want to learn how to manage speed, air control, settle the car before jump\ after landing...
Another option is a BMX track...but i found rumps there are tooooooo big for 1\10. they are fine for my SSTE (1\8) but i dont feel confident sending TT2.0 there.
Also as long as i'm aming towards driving good instead of jumping - i dont want to go with thicker oil \ stiffer springs.

I will pbl try to find VRP pistons to slow down compressing stage, but it's nearly impossible to find it in right size (11,9mm)
mb it worth to DYI.
I will try this weekend and update a thread if have any conclusions

TThank you all

 

[CertifiedMike]

I would try avidrc.com or MIP for possible shock piston solutions too. They are both aftermarket suppliers that offer upgrade shock parts on their sites.
MIP sold tunable shock pistons for years.

Associated Electronics and possibly Schumacher seem likely to have offered tuning pistons for shocks. PR Racing and HB Racing also come to mind as race oriented RC manufacturers that might be able to help.

I don't know how helpful parts dept would be though. Since this request is not to service their own brands, I'd leave out any mention of what car you are working on in your emails.