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Fangdango! V8 drag car

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johnnydmd

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I decided to start a new thread for this build now that I've decided to move forward. The original thread is here.

Background:

After a number of scale 4 stroke engines came out, I pondered building a drag car with one. About 2 years ago a scale V8 came out that was small enough to consider, but the engine clearly had issues and the only example out there of an RC car with one in it wasn't looking good performance wise. A year later another company, Cison, released a similar V8 that was vastly better in quality and power, and renewed my interest.

I wanted to build something I could use in 132 ft applications, so it had to be 1/8 or 1/7 in scale at the most. The engine is claimed to be 1/6. After about a year or so of researching parts, and trying to plan out a potential build, I finally had something I thought I could pull off.

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The main issues I considered were drivetrain related, and accounting for an engine that could only rev to 11k. I saw what other had done and thought of some other ideas that might achieve the top end that I would need. In the end I came up with a transmission/clutch setup using one from a Kyosho Mad Force.

At first, I had planned on an independent rear suspension, but eventually decided to try building a 4-link that is better suited for drag racing. Again, Kyosho Mad Force parts would do the job with some mods. Brake system, etc, all from Mad Force.

Being a Mopar guy, I saw that there were a couple of body choices to go with - either a Challenger/Demon, or a Viper. After thinking about that, I chose the Viper because of the notion of running the side pipes, and I like the aerodynamics of that body a lot (which is why two of my nitro 1/8th cars use that body). All that was left was the name. I was driving home listening to ZZ Top on Spotify, a song of "Fandango!", and the name "Fangdango!" came to me, so that really settled it. Appropriate since one meaning of the original word is "useless waste of time". Haha.

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Wanted to stretch my painting a little, came up with a southwest flavored scheme with some cool accents.

My plan was to start mocking the entire thing up before ordering the engine to make sure things would really fit. So, I spent this very rainy, miserable weekend doing just that.

First, I built the axle.
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It's a cut down Mad Force with a locked diff (for now).

I printed out a 3d model of the engine based on the dimensions Cison shows. Then I put together the front suspension, and positioned everything under the body just to make sure it would all fit, and traced out an idea for a lower chassis plate.

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After cutting the plate and finishing up the other side of the front suspension, and adding links, it looked to me that not only would it all fit easily, but I would also have plenty of room to have the radiator in the front.

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The steering links will probably have to have bends, but I think that should be ok.

Checking the engine position, and rear tires...
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Rear tires were very snug, similar to my 1/8th cars. The engine position seemed good to me, give or take a bit either way, depending on the actual Cison engine.

At this point, I felt I had enough proof of concept that I could order the engine without regret! So, it's on the way :)

Now it's just a matter of mocking the prototype up and getting some measurements, and having the chassis cut. I still have to figure out how I want the upper plate to go, and where other things will go (receiver/receiver battery, throttle servo, etc). I am not sure if the ignition can run off the receiver or that I need a separate pack for that - I noticed it uses the same connector as the receiver though.
 
Tip: If it was my car, I would put a panhard bar in it to stop the rear axle from swaying back and forth. it will most likely be more work, but it will be the good thing in the long end. It will also prevent the slicks hitting the side of the body and ruining that great paint job!!
 
Tip: If it was my car, I would put a panhard bar in it to stop the rear axle from swaying back and forth. it will most likely be more work, but it will be the good thing in the long end. It will also prevent the slicks hitting the side of the body and ruining that great paint job!!

Yup, that's the plan. I just haven't attached it to the axle yet.
 
Got to working on the 4-link setup, not so easy for sure. But I managed to get the mock-up reasonably close. Lots of hacked, cobbled stuff going on here, but it's letting me get the general design going. These arches will be in 3mm CF and have several more cross braces.

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Scribbled down some stuff...
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And now the chassis is partially designed!
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The upper plate is more like two upper rails. I added the servo mount. The other side will probably get a shelf to add battery, receiver, and other goodies. I still have to figure out the holes/slots for the transmission assembly (the transmission will sit on its own plate that will be movable), and the holes for the engine mount. The wheelie bar is going to be a totally new design, which will be adjustable and with springs like a full-sized car.

I was going to use my 1/8th nitro front shock tower, but I am going to design a new one that will work better and allow me to use my shocks without screwing with the travel length, as well as letting me scoot the engine forward a bit.
 
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The one piece that I don't have, that will have to be fabbed is for the clutch/bell assembly. The engine's output shaft/gear would mate to this, which then mates to the transmission. I have this crankshaft, and I think modding it would do the trick to attaching the bell and clutch. The collet would butt up against the gear that's on the d-shaft, which I will have the set screws sinking into countersunk holes in the d-shaft to prevent the gear from moving down the shaft when the clutch nut is cranked down.

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Thats a lot of little machining!
Curious, what tools do you use for this machine work?

I have no idea where it starts to make more sense to machine a new shaft but your plan is impressive for certain!
 
Thats a lot of little machining!
Curious, what tools do you use for this machine work?

I have no idea where it starts to make more sense to machine a new shaft but your plan is impressive for certain!

I don't have a tool yet to do it. Been contemplating a mini-lathe for some time. I'd probably just take it to my buddy at his machine shop, and maybe even have him just machine a new shaft to the specs I need it.
 
I have all of the chassis parts fleshed out, preliminary drawings, but probably really close.

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The suspension mock up is close to complete. I haven't put in the steering links yet, that's a tight fit, but it is doable. Got my new low offset rear hubs too, and boy that's a tight fit for the wheels where the links are, but they don't touch somehow. Less then 1mm of clearance though, so I might grind them down and make new holes further in. But maybe not, I'll see if the wheels rub when running. If they do, it wouldn't be more than a surface scuff.

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Plenty of room for the rear wheels now in the body though, which is a sigh of relief.

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I have the chassis positioned pretty close to what I'd run it at, which is very low to the ground. It'll sit a little higher than this, but not by much.

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Then, figuring there should be enough room for the radiator, and needing body posts somewhere, logical place appears to be the front, so a new front piece was created.

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Next, I'll start putting the transmission together to get a better idea of how I might need to mod the lower plate if needed. The transmission assembly will sit on its own plate that will bolt into slots on the lower chassis so that mesh can be set to the engine's output gear.

I didn't officially weigh it on the corner weights yet but picking it up it feels under 4 lbs. right now. I figure I have around 2 lbs. of stuff left to add (radiator, throttle servo, transmission, fuel tank, wheelie bar). I'll weigh it tonight with the trans parts and tank on it. The wheelie bar is going to be very lightweight, and made from aluminum tubing, similar to this:

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Little bit of re-design of a few areas after putting a few more things together and seeing some clearance issues. Transmission plate is close, but I won't have the true hole measurements until I get it fully assembled. It's half there.

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After laying stuff all out for the transmission, it occurred to me that it would be much easier for me to use a coupler and a 6mm d-shaft on the end of cut engine crank for the clutch assembly. I happened to have the coupler already in hand (6-7mm coupler).

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Ignore the rod sticking through the clutch bell, that was just me checking some lengths. Also I only have one trans mount out of the four needed for this. Printing some out for set-up before ordering the alloy ones.
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Now it's a parts waiting game, including the engine. Gotta focus on our list race this weekend.
 
Wow, just saw this was like a featured post!? Thanks so much, I am humbled and honored!

I was very fortunate to stumble upon a Cison Engine FB group over the weekend, and I have really had my eyes opened to some things. Some things that they did to fix early bugs (glad I waited to buy now), and a lot of what is in store. I also found that they will directly send you replacement parts. But what was really interesting was that Cison is developing a real turbo.

Then I saw a guy with a Cison inline 4 with a turbo that he got from "Keychain Turbos" or something like that. Apparently this company was making these realistic keychain turbos with full impellers and bearings and people were trying to actually use them on these little 4-strokers and they worked, sorta. So the company decided to make an "R" version, which is a fully functioning, heat resistant machined unit that you can fully customize. (sadly the company is going out of business in 2025 it looks like). The guy with the L4 had a demo, and the engine really, really liked the turbo! I went ahead and ordered 1, to see just how good these things are, but I'll get 2 if it checks out and do a twin turbo set up. I have a lot to learn about turbos, I never fooled with them back in my hotrod days. I am pretty sure I want to do a rear-mount setup though.
 
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