i landed the very first one i tryed same with a front flip, some jumps didnt have really any lips just a flat incline, those are more dificult but same concept, u need to roll on it and stay in it till u are almost done rotating then let off and straighten out. i found them to be very easy, the front flips are the ones i had the most trouble with. also it helps to have a 3.3 over a 2.5, my buddies 3.3 will flip off of a nice handicap access curb.