Ajeauxdn, no that doesn't sound retarded, you are right about the simple things not being the most obvious, but I did double check to see if the lines were all in place and even checked for leaks........I actually put all new fuel line on it Friday night. I wish I couyld take it outside right now and try to get it in tune, but it's way cold right now, (16 with windchill of -5, bbbrrrrrrrr). It was doing fine for a little while yesterday and I was concerned that with the cold temps I might need to richen up the HSN, so I adjusted it about 1/4 turn adn ran fine for a little longer then started going down hill, then like an idiot I tried to adjust the LSN 1/8 turn to compensate and from there it just got worse and worse...........seems grasshopper still has much to learn!