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WickedFog said:
The original recipe called for 200g water. But after making it, I ended up with a very sticky dough, and had to work in more flour. So I dropped it to 185g water. I also added the honey, which may have added to the extra moisture, but I like honey in my dough.

Also, I differ in the mixing. I add the water, yeast, and honey to the bowl in my stand mixer. Then I add half the flour and oil. Mix it real good, then add the salt. Salt kills yeast, so only add that after mixing some of the flour in first. Then slowly work in the remainder of the flour, but save a little for kneading.

After mixed well, transfer to a board and gently knead until done. Tested by forming a ball and poking it. The dimple should fairly quickly spring back.
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I also let the dough rise for 3 hours before separating it into portions. Then kneaded each piece a little more, then let it rise again, but my second rise I didn't let go for more than a half hour or so. The oven was smoking hot, and I was out of time, so I stretched it as best I could. It needed to sit another 15 minutes for the gluten to relax before stretching.

I used King Arthur all purpose and King Arthur 00 bread flour.

Dough is done rising when doubled in size and when you press another dimple in it, it springs back slowly.

Thos guy has some amazing videos.
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I agree the rest should have been longer. I was just by King Arthur yesterday.
 
Guest D said:
I agree the rest should have been longer. I was just by King Arthur yesterday.
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I had my oven on at 170° during the first proof, with the dough on top of the oven. So all the dough was rising in a fairly warm environment. So I figured after gently kneading the second time, and cranking the oven on max for 30 minutes, that would be good for relaxing the dough. I misjudged that 😫 I'll nail it next time.

King Arthur is good stuff!
 
Chubaka said:
We will go with drool..... in my underpants. 😝🫠🙃
Crush up some honey roasted stachios and put it in a rich vanilla bean. 🤤🤤🤤🤤
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I had to laugh at the moist underoo’s, but definitely love the frozen concoction without a doubt sir. 🤤🤩
 

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