what do you think of XL 5.9 GT

[cwal1774]

You're welcome guys you can find them on ebay or RC Planet.

 

[MudSlinger33]

Oil is what keeps a 2 stroke cool, therefore a higher oil content will equal a cooler (more sluggish) motor.

 

[revorebuild]

Thanks for the tip

Oil is what keeps a 2 stroke cool, therefore a higher oil content will equal a cooler (more sluggish) motor.

Thanks for the tip , that does make more sence's then what I've been reading , gona start looking into learning more about fuel's ,I'm getting more and more in to this hobby and its time learn more about it , Thanks again

 

[revorebuild]

Ok here are the part numbers for the whole double slipper clutch assembely. Slipper clutch plate A-86801, slipper clutch plate B-86802, rubber damper-87243, slipper clutch hub-86800, and the spur gear is a 49 tooth part no. 77094.

What size clutch bell will go good with the 49 tooth spur , I'm hoping to pull wheelies with the LRP 32 ,I did get the truck , motor feels good , has good pinch but he din't lock tight CB screw and it was lose so the bell and bearing's are toast other then that seem's to be in good shap , din't open tranny or diff's up yet , but I plan on making them bullet proof , my buddy took 100 of the price I showed him a few screw that were missing and he losed the starter plus clutch shoes are done from lose CB got it for 150 , so the build begains LOL

 

[cwal1774]

I run a 17 tooth clutch bell. I get a good balance of low end torque for some good wheelies and pretty decent top end speed.

 

[Extreme RC Mods]

Higher nitro will make the engine run cooler due to the fact that it requires a richer setting because of the added oxygen. This should also make the engine last longer as a richer setting means more lube to keep things protected, it's a win win short of the extra cost for the extra nitro.

 

[revorebuild]

I run a 17 tooth clutch bell. I get a good balance of low end torque for some good wheelies and pretty decent top end speed.

Thanks again Bro , I hope I don't bug you with all the things I may be asking you on this build , this is my first HPI monster truck build , I did build up a revo as well lot of up grades to beef it up , and I have MGT 8.0 upgraded the springs all stock , now I'll build up the XL and this coming some I'm gona bash the H### out of them and the best one will be the I stick with and get all there trucks , so far I'm betting on the XL here is a few pic of it so far

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Higher nitro will make the engine run cooler due to the fact that it requires a richer setting because of the added oxygen. This should also make the engine last longer as a richer setting means more lube to keep things protected, it's a win win short of the extra cost for the extra nitro.

I talk to a buddy of mine that race's a acohol mud dragster and he said it does run cooler the higher the % , Thanks for the great tip , I just wonder Y that some say the more % its hotter and some say the more % it run's cooler its kinda confusing , I belive you and my buddy to he is a pro drag racer , but I think this coming summer I'll get 3 quarts 10% 20% 30% and put it to the test , It will be a fun test to do

 

[cwal1774]

Nah you're not bugging me that's what we are here for. Betting on the XL is a good bet. I have had a T-MAXX and a Revo in the past both were good trucks but they just don't stand up to the abuse that the Savage line of trucks can. At least not without a lot of upgrades and after market parts. Plus I think they are a hell of a lot easier to work on as I'm sure you're finding out. I like being able to change spur gears by only removing 6 screws or servicing the diffs without even having to take the wheels off. I like the fact that HPI put metal gears in the transmission and steel dogbones all the way around.

 

[revorebuild]

Alot easyer to work on

Nah you're not bugging me that's what we are here for. Betting on the XL is a good bet. I have had a T-MAXX and a Revo in the past both were good trucks but they just don't stand up to the abuse that the Savage line of trucks can. At least not without a lot of upgrades and after market parts. Plus I think they are a hell of a lot easier to work on as I'm sure you're finding out. I like being able to change spur gears by only removing 6 screws or servicing the diffs without even having to take the wheels off. I like the fact that HPI put metal gears in the transmission and steel dogbones all the way around.

yes the XL is a lot easyer to work on by far , the revo took about 3 to 4 hr's to change out front and rear diff , think I'll look into shiming the XL tranny , the slipper clutch has a little wobble to it , shaft may have gottin bent from clutch bell screw being lose so I'll look in to that , but I don't think I'll need to up grade the tranny gears at all , just inspect gears and bearings and move on to diff's , it took me about 15 min to take the truck apart to this point

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[revorebuild]

my first order will be

Dubro Glo-Plug Washers (8) DUB894 $1.20
HPI Clutch Bell 17T HPI77107 $14.99
HPI Damper Rubber 33X1.4mm Savage X HPI87243 $4.89
HPI Differential Case Washer 0.7mm Hellfire HPI86099 $3.89
HPI Spur Gear 49 Tooth 1M Savage X HPI77094 $4.89
Integy Bulkhead Brace Savage XL INTT6924SILVER $8.95
HPI SAVAGE 21 25 SS X XL 5.9 5X10 CLUTCH BEARINGS 10 pack $13.00
HPI Savage X silver aluminum slipper clutch hub SVX4008 for Double Disc Slipper $11.88
HPI Z892 WASHER 10X12X0.2MM (10PCS)$4.00

 

[revorebuild]

shock rebuild or up grade

few of the shocks have air in them so I was thinking while I was making a few changes to the truck mit as well rebuild the shock its about $28 plus shipping to rebuild them , I can get new stock shocks on E-bay for that , now I'm thinking about upgrading them , like some in put on this ,stay with stock or up grade and if so what is a good upgrade that is at a good price

 

[cwal1774]

I like the stock shocks except for one problem the shafts are a little weak imo. They tend to snap off at the bottom right at the threads and they tend to bend a little. HPI makes a threaded aluminum body shock but I don't know for sure if the use the same shafts. You might consider the HPI big bore shocks unless you like the look of dual shocks at each corner.

 

[revorebuild]

I like the stock shocks except for one problem the shafts are a little weak imo. They tend to snap off at the bottom right at the threads and they tend to bend a little. HPI makes a threaded aluminum body shock but I don't know for sure if the use the same shafts. You might consider the HPI big bore shocks unless you like the look of dual shocks at each corner.

I'm kinda likein the idea of 4 instead of 8 , less maintenance.
may be the HPIA720 big bore , but would like to no if they work well or do I need a kit of some kind to in stall them

 

[cwal1774]

No I don't think so a friend of mine bought a brand new 4.6 a little while back and it came with the big bores on it. I helped him break it in and got a pretty good look at things. I didn't see anything different other than there were 4 big shocks instead of 8 smaller ones. I think they will just bolt righ on.

 

[Assassin]

Yeah, the 2011 X has the BB shocks std. They need the spacer to fit the top end but that's it. They are good once you fit Hellfire Red Dot springs & 35wt shock oil, until then they are too soft & dont dampen enough for big air.

however the 8 shock set up is more solid for hard core bashing. Big air on BB shocks I've seen bend up shock towers, and stress one shaft instead of 2. Taking a hit from a bad landing or tree that jumped in font of the Truck will more likely cause more damage to a single shock set up then a double.

So handling is better (much better) with BB shocks, but the 8 shock set up will handle more hard core bashing IMO. Using progressive rate springs on the 8 shock set up improves handling a bit.

 

[cwal1774]

Oh ok my bad. I didn't notice the spacer on the top good to know. I am thinking of gettting some for my XL.

 

[revorebuild]

Yeah, the 2011 X has the BB shocks std. They need the spacer to fit the top end but that's it. They are good once you fit Hellfire Red Dot springs & 35wt shock oil, until then they are too soft & dont dampen enough for big air.

however the 8 shock set up is more solid for hard core bashing. Big air on BB shocks I've seen bend up shock towers, and stress one shaft instead of 2. Taking a hit from a bad landing or tree that jumped in font of the Truck will more likely cause more damage to a single shock set up then a double.

So handling is better (much better) with BB shocks, but the 8 shock set up will handle more hard core bashing IMO. Using progressive rate springs on the 8 shock set up improves handling a bit.

Thanks alot for your in put , I'm not to good at landing yet and am not to hard core but I want to build it up for hard core bashing so may be the 8 shock set is better way to go , do you no of a good up grade for the shocks ,Thanks

 

[Assassin]

No Prob.

You can go for the HPI threaded alloy 8 Shock set, Get Progressive rate springs,and run 35wt shock oil. Bash-Ready.

 

[MudSlinger33]

I liked using 50 weight for those BIG jumps.