Rock crawler and "faster" truck.

[TacRacing]

If I wanted a truck that I could rock climb with (nothing crazy) and run around at higher speeds in the backyard (and jump) what would be the best thing to get?
I do not want an emaxx or esavage.. i want something solid axel (I think).
I was looking at the txt for sale on this site, and it made me want one bad!!

 

[robmob]

TXT or possibly the HPI Wheely King.

 

[Big Dan]

Or you can get the Xfactor 2. It is nitro powered and has solid axles. I had one but never played with it. To many vehicles not enough time. I have never owned a txt or wheely king so I do not know how fast they will go or how good at climbing they are. The Xfactor climbs pretty good, plus it has lots of power. But parts availability sucks in northern california.

 

[NCNitro]

If you want to crawl at all, the x-factor is not a good choice. Nitro and crawling just dont go well together. The clutch and overheating will be your biggest problems with a nitro crawler. The TXT would be a good choice or a clod based truck with a larger pinion than one dedicated to crawling. But I would strongly suggest an electric rig if you plan on doing any crawling at all.

 

[Big Dan]

Yeah but you can crawl with the Xfactor as long as you let it run out in the open after crawling with it to keep the engine cool. He did say that he was not going to be crawling crazy and that he did want speed and the electric crawlers don't have to much speed from what I have seen. ANd you are right if you want to be a crawler stick with electric but don't plan on running it out in a field to bash with. Well not at more than like 5 miles an hour.

 

[4u2nv]

Check out Smaxxin's Txt in the for sale section... Sweet rig.

 

[sweetdiesel]

I can imagine Smaxxins TXT with a nice brushless setup. One set of low voltage lipos for rock crawling and a higher voltage pack to let her rip.

 

[Big Dan]

Nice. See I just talk about what I know. I guess with modifications you could run both crawl and speed. I didn't even think about changin the voltage. Wonder if I can do that with my crawler? Now that would be fun. Crawling then haulin.....

 

[Big Dan]

And everybody is correct smaxxins txt is nice. If I had the money I would pick it up...

 

[NCNitro]

Sorry Dan, but I have to disagree on several pointes here.

Yeah but you can crawl with the Xfactor as long as you let it run out in the open after crawling with it to keep the engine cool.

The problem is it will overheat while crawling due to the clutch needing to be engaged and keeping the rpms up in order to that, all the while moving very slowly passing almost no air over the cooling head, and if you run a body forget it. Not saying you can't crawl with a nitro, but I am saying it's not a good idea for many reasons

electric crawlers don't have to much speed from what I have seen. And you are right if you want to be a crawler stick with electric but don't plan on running it out in a field to bash with. Well not at more than like 5 miles an hour

This is very wrong, it can be geared in a nice mid range by changing the pinion gear on the motor. A gear with fewer teeth will give you more torque and less top speed, while a higher tooth pinion will get you more top speed and less torque, but you would still be able to crawl with it. You can also vary the speed by the number of turns on the motor. I have 55 turn lathe motors in my crawler, but you could go with something with much fewer turns and still do both. So your 5mph statement is way off.

 

[Big Dan]

So your 5mph statement is way off

Yes I already stated I was wrong.

I guess with modifications you could run both crawl and speed. I didn't even think about changin the voltage.

I am just talking about my experience.

See I just talk about what I know. I guess with modifications you could run both crawl and speed. I didn't even think about changin the voltage. Wonder if I can do that with my crawler? Now that would be fun. Crawling then haulin.....

The problem is it will overheat while crawling due to the clutch needing to be engaged and keeping the rpms up in order to that, all the while moving very slowly passing almost no air over the cooling head, and if you run a body forget it. Not saying you can't crawl with a nitro, but I am saying it's not a good idea for many reasons

I had an Xfactor and I had no problems crawling it. Which is why I said after you crawl it you have to run it out in the open to get air going over the head to cool it down. I never burned up a clutch in the xfactor and my temps never got over 230 on it. You can't crawl over two miles of rocks with it, but you can crawl over rocks and such with it and still not damage it. I have done it that is how I know. I just never had time to play with my xfactor. I enjoyed it when I did and. Most of the crawler guy's even use the axles from Xfactors for their projects.

And yes if you want to crawl electric is the way to go. I have an electric crawler. But it is specifically for crawling not for bashing.

 

[NCNitro]

And your statement that the Xfactor can not crawl is wrong.

Please show me where I stated it could not crawl, I said it would not be a good choice for crawling, and simply that nitros were not the best choice for a crawler. If you plan on quoting me please get your facts straight first.

 

[TacRacing]

I was thinking... if I had an RC setup for regular high speed running... and with my radio (M11) made a second model in it that had a very short end point... you know.. one for slow.. one for fast.. would that work?
I think that would be the easiest solution.. at least easier than changing voltages.

 

[Big Dan]

I apoligize I thought I took that out before I posted it. I reread what I wrote and saw that you did not say that it could not crawl and I thought I took it out before posting. So I humbly apoligize for that I. I will edit the post to take that out. You said it was not a good idea to crawl with a nitro powered vehicle. But that is what the xfactor was made for. True you can not crawl for long periods but it will crawl and if you do it right you will not have a problem with it overheating.

And Tac racing I do not know if that can work. You may want to ask the other guy's on the forum about that. I do not have an m11 to let you know the answer for that question. But in my opinion I am not sure if that will work. In my crawler I have 65t motors and I guess it you put in smaller turn motors it may work? NcNitro probably knows more about that than I do. You may also want to ask sweetdiesel.

 

[SMaxxin]

WOW I don't know how I missed this.

A Clod or TXT will be your most popular crawlers and there is a reason for that.....They are both great crawlers. The Kyosho Twin Force is a very nice rig also and with an added four link it's also a very good crawler.

I have always said, Crawling and Niro do not belong together!

I can imagine Smaxxins TXT with a nice brushless setup. One set of low voltage lipos for rock crawling and a higher voltage pack to let her rip.

If I had the $$$ to set it up like that it wouldn't be for sale!

 

[TacRacing]

How sweet would it be to have both packs in the truck a rig up a way to switch from pack to pack with your remote!!

Run hard to get to the climbing site.. kick it in low to climb and back up to high for faster runs...



After I get all my projects off of the table.. I think I am going to build me a txt.


Is the clod 1/10th scale as well??
It just seems like you are so close to climbing with the txt over the clod..