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RC Locomotive 'Diesel-Electric'

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Managed to get some useful workshop (shed) time in. One wheel complete and 4 no. at 95% complete
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Just 3 more to go. The last 5% requires the compound slide angle to be adjusted to cut the 2deg taper on the tire and i plan to do all 7 remaining wheels at one ‘sitting’
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As a side project i need to get an intercom so that the ‘call in for meals’ is easier for Mrs Roog. It seems that simple intercoms are not the common thing that they used to be, not much choice. I did consider a long pull string yanking on a bell. 😳
 
As a side project i need to get an intercom so that the ‘call in for meals’ is easier for Mrs Roog. It seems that simple intercoms are not the common thing that they used to be, not much choice. I did consider a long pull string yanking on a bell. 😳
You can find wireless intercomm systems all over Amazon.
 
You can find wireless intercomm systems all over Amazon.
Understood although they all look like the same thing, i was hoping to find something slightly better than the cheapest but I'm not into fancy commercial units you might see at your dentist or apartment blocks. Ill probably end up with one of the low cost amazon/ebay radio ones and see how it goes 🙂
 
As for the multi-motor setup, you will need an ESC for each motor. But since all your motors are all doing the same thing, you can split your Rx throttle port to all the different ESC's. Or you can run two Rx's with two motors on each Rx, or one Rx per motor.

You'll want to run a separate BEC for your Rx if running one, just to make sure you have good power for your Rx, as you can get some signal degradation splitting the signal 4-ways. Not signal from the Tx to the Rx. I am referring to the PWM signal going from the Rx to the ESC's. This does require good power for your Rx to push the signals out cleanly. A 10A BEC will probably be overkill, but it's going to be cleaner power than your ESC will provide.

Calibrating: Make sure you calibrate all 4 Esc's at the same time. You don't need anything special in a radio for this if sticking to one Rx. It is not any different than running one ESC/motor if running a single Rx. If you do end up using servos elsewhere. I would probably add in a separate Rx for those, especially if running one Rx to feed 4 motors.

In the MT12 you setup multiple Rx's by pairing all your Rx's in the same model in the setup screen. You would simply give each Rx a separate ID. I would also label each Rx with the ID you assign it in the radio, as it makes things easier later.

The best way though would be to use a flight controller. This would get your motors a little closer in sync.
 
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As for the multi-motor setup, you will need an ESC for each motor. But since all your motors are all doing the same thing, you can split your Rx throttle port to all the different ESC's. Or you can run two Rx's with two motors on each Rx, or one Rx per motor.

You'll want to run a separate BEC for your Rx if running one, just to make sure you have good power for your Rx, as you can get some signal degradation splitting the signal 4-ways. Not signal from the Tx to the Rx. I am referring to the PWMNsignal going from the Rx to the ESC's. This does require good power for your Rx to push the signals out cleanly. A 10A BEC will probably be overkill, but it'sgoing to be cleaner power than your ESC will provide.

Calibrating: Make sure you calibrate all 4 Esc's at the same time. You don't need anything special in a radio for this if sticking to one Rx. It is not any different than running one ESC/motor if running a single Rx. If you do end up using servos elsewhere. I would probably add in a separate Rx for those, especially if running one Rx to feed 4 motors.

In the MT12 you setup multiple Rx's by pairing all your Rx's in the same model in the setup screen. You would simply give each Rx a separate ID. I would also label each Rx with the ID you assign it in the radio, as it makes things easier later.

The best way though would be to use a flight controller. This would get your motors a lit closer in sync.

Hi @WickedFog thank you for your detailed response, my plan is to run two motors, one per bogie with belt drive to two axles. As you say, one ESC per motor and I believe I can link the ground and signal cables to one output from the RX. The plan is to provide a separate battery to serve the RX. The RX will control the bogie motor ESCs as well as a throttle servo On the generator, I could add controls for lights and horn too, although I doubt if a horn would be audible over the noise of the generator engine. Whilst it is tempting to link controls if it is stable enough it might make More sense to keep it simple. I intend to install a modest capacity LiFePO4 traction Battery, the idea being that the loco will run from the battery alone with the generator there to keep the battery charged. A stalled generator shouldn’t immediately result in a stopped loco.
 
As a side project i need to get an intercom so that the ‘call in for meals’ is easier for Mrs Roog. It seems that simple intercoms are not the common thing that they used to be, not much choice. I did consider a long pull string yanking on a bell. 😳
I thought that's what cell phones were for. 🤷‍♂️ 🤣
 
I thought that's what cell phones were for. 🤷‍♂️ 🤣
True, I think it might be a 1960’s mind set, telephones were an expensive resource not to be wasted! Anyway my low cost plasticy wireless intercom has arrived, what ican say is that it has a loud notification tone I hope it’s loud enough.
 
Managed to mess wheel no. 6 up! and no I didn't have any spare blanks, (I'm so cheap) back to the metal suppliers and another hefty delivery charge, not so cheap now eh? :0(

So looking back at what went wrong, it was an easy mistake to make, I had the tool in the right orientation, what harm could it be to do that operation out of sequence? Well as it turned out quite a lot actually, the measurement was relative to a finished edge and 'that edge' haden't been finalized. So I flipped the wheel over to hide the mistake and guess what, yup I did it again, but different! I mentioned earlier in this thread that I had a system and all I had to do was follow it. Any way wheels 7 and 8 are at 95% stage like the others and the new steel arrived today ready for me to make another wheel no. 6, and yes I ordered spares this time, in fact enough to make a 12 wheel loco!
 
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The post man was initially dismissive of the oddly small but very dense objects he was delivering to my house but seems to be getting a bit suspicious, he made a cryptic quip about the strange shaped packages that have been arriving lately :0)
 
The post man was initially dismissive of the oddly small but very dense objects he was delivering to my house but seems to be getting a bit suspicious, he made a cryptic quip about the strange shaped packages that have been arriving lately :0)
All of us here are on at least one watch list 😆
 
The post man was initially dismissive of the oddly small but very dense objects he was delivering to my house but seems to be getting a bit suspicious, he made a cryptic quip about the strange shaped packages that have been arriving lately :0)
Wouldn't want the post man having any 'accidents'... 🤔😲🤕

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More ship, less lip!!! 🙄🤣
 
The post man was initially dismissive of the oddly small but very dense objects he was delivering to my house but seems to be getting a bit suspicious, he made a cryptic quip about the strange shaped packages that have been arriving lately :0)
I dumped $11k into a Mustang I was building over a few month period back in '97. The UPS guy saw me every day working on my car. He started making it a point to bring deliveries around back where I was working and he started staying longer the more he delivered. He eventually started helping me put it back together. I made sure and had some detail stuff coming on the day I fired it up and waited til he got there. Gawd it sounded like a full blown pro street car. Cachug cachug. We took it down the road and back and he was ready to build himself one 😆
 
8 th wheel made, I'm setting up for the 2 deg taper on the tire.
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Next taking the cut on all 7 remaining wheels,
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Then a quick tidy up, here they are 8 no. Nearly identical wheels! Hey no one will notice unless they stick a vernier calliper on them🙂
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I was going to check my wheel profile mounted on a test axle at the track this morning but the cold and wet put me off so i set about hand cutting the side cheeks to the first bogie. 50mm x 5mm mild steel not to bad and not worth me swapping blades on my band saw. Decided to face them off square in the mill, bit of a luxury being able to wack it in the vice and running a cutter up and down a few times. Next job is to cut the bearing holes and shape the profile so that it isnt so slab sided
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Trimed top and bottom of bogie side plates, both plates side by side in the vice, once complete i can set out the two holes for the main bearings
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Set out the axle bearing centres and drill a pilot hole to guide the rotabroach cutter the guide pin in the cutter is spring loaded to eject the ring of metal cut out.
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Then slowly push the cutter through

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The hole is very clean (new bit) it seems like a neat solution, it would be interesting to try a bigger one.
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Bearings fit nicely too. I haven’t pushed it fully home because i have other work to do profiling the plates
 
I decided to profile the lower edge of the plates by hacksawing, drilling lots of holes and milling to finish. Any soft focus effects are due to oil on the lens. :0)

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I forgot to photograph me cutting the second one, it is similar but rather than drill i milled all the material away which whilst harder on tooling was quicker and more accurate, will do the others this way.

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I was planning to hand work using hacksaw and files this section of work, but wisely switched to my belt sander to finish as it puts a nice sharp right angle edge to the plate. Fine finishing by wet an dry paper. Other than the bearing holes and the’re relation to top edge, accuracy isnt important.
 
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