wannarunem
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A bird can fly in autopilot. Why wouldnt buggies be able to drive itself?....I think its right around the corner from seeing it. The tech is there.
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Nitro Car with a brain?
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kwong2001
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That's a whole different animal. Autopilot is so much more simple than telling a car to drive itself.
You would have to have it either work with GPS or have sensors on the ground so the computer would know exactly where it's going...very complicated stuff. And being able to put it in a compact size as in an r/c car, that's a decade away.
Besides, wouldn't that defeat the purpose of owning a remote control car?
I didn't read the entire thread but in responce to the original post I thought of this. I came across a fuel injection kit for 4 stroke motors a while ago and it was very similar to want your talking about.It had an onboard ECU and something kinda like an O2 sensor that measured the fuel mixture from the exhaust.The ECU then adjusted the mixture according to the sensor readings by means of what apeared to be injectors that replaced the carb needles..I believe the setup was for planes and I'm not sure if they still sell it anymore or not.If I can find the website again that was selling this I'll be sure to post it.
Rex, I recall the same...... I thought Connley/Perry had something to do with it. Dunno....
As for how advanced they are now, just take a look at the HRS system from Futaba, bundled with the 3PK radio. I know, I know, it doesn't monitor fuel mixture or speed, but it does however give you the ability to set some really amazing values to improve your overall driving experience. HiTec digital servos can be PROGRAMMED from a programming unit to center, End Points, rate of travel, exponential travel (if not direct you can in the futaba), failsafe positions (supported by HRS) and so on. The 'driving itself' part would be almost impossible IMO. How would it know what speed at which you wanted to travel? Unless we are talking about a 'drive by laser' option, to avoid obstacle etc. Kinda like the new Infinity FX. As for today, the servos can be set to center already (for steering) and all you have to do it hold the throttle where you want it for cruise control type driving.
I like the exponential throttle input control on the Futaba itself. So when you lay down the hammer, you dont end up with a flooding and/or bogging situation. In fact, you are restricting the rate at which that throttle servo will open your carb fully. Some think its a b.s. option, but I can tell you from experience, it works VERY well. It helped me get my sweet spot off the line without having to over lean my mill. Pretty sweet.
And the same with the steering input at dual rates. So, lets say I'm travelling at low speed, my steering inputs will be extreme, while on the other hand, if I'm traveling at a high speed, the steering inputs and much smaller. This is expecially good for on-road and my buggy. There is one way to fake this system out though. Get it to full speed, let go of the throttle completely and then turn. The RADIO is what is doing the mixing of the input..... Sooooo.... The radio thinks its going slow and SLAMS the steering far and fast! Just something to get used to. Thats where if the radio was aware of the actual speed the car was going things could be VERY much improved on. For steering sake anyhow.
Ill just shut the hell up now as I'm babling on and on. My point of the whole thing was just to show that the Radios themselves have a plethora of options, just as well as programming the RX and Servos. This is in essence, already being at a point of a brain being in your ride. This isnt analog any more!
But yes, it would be AWESOME to be able to get the running results to your radio, such as speed, rpm, temp and roll rate. The results of what you could do with THAT data would be amazing!!! Thus extending the life of your mill and being able to restrict bad situations from happening.
What if we could get the traction control (computerized) system lin our rides just like the STI's???? Oh man, life would be awesome!
Ill shut up now.
As for how advanced they are now, just take a look at the HRS system from Futaba, bundled with the 3PK radio. I know, I know, it doesn't monitor fuel mixture or speed, but it does however give you the ability to set some really amazing values to improve your overall driving experience. HiTec digital servos can be PROGRAMMED from a programming unit to center, End Points, rate of travel, exponential travel (if not direct you can in the futaba), failsafe positions (supported by HRS) and so on. The 'driving itself' part would be almost impossible IMO. How would it know what speed at which you wanted to travel? Unless we are talking about a 'drive by laser' option, to avoid obstacle etc. Kinda like the new Infinity FX. As for today, the servos can be set to center already (for steering) and all you have to do it hold the throttle where you want it for cruise control type driving.
I like the exponential throttle input control on the Futaba itself. So when you lay down the hammer, you dont end up with a flooding and/or bogging situation. In fact, you are restricting the rate at which that throttle servo will open your carb fully. Some think its a b.s. option, but I can tell you from experience, it works VERY well. It helped me get my sweet spot off the line without having to over lean my mill. Pretty sweet.
And the same with the steering input at dual rates. So, lets say I'm travelling at low speed, my steering inputs will be extreme, while on the other hand, if I'm traveling at a high speed, the steering inputs and much smaller. This is expecially good for on-road and my buggy. There is one way to fake this system out though. Get it to full speed, let go of the throttle completely and then turn. The RADIO is what is doing the mixing of the input..... Sooooo.... The radio thinks its going slow and SLAMS the steering far and fast! Just something to get used to. Thats where if the radio was aware of the actual speed the car was going things could be VERY much improved on. For steering sake anyhow.
Ill just shut the hell up now as I'm babling on and on. My point of the whole thing was just to show that the Radios themselves have a plethora of options, just as well as programming the RX and Servos. This is in essence, already being at a point of a brain being in your ride. This isnt analog any more!
But yes, it would be AWESOME to be able to get the running results to your radio, such as speed, rpm, temp and roll rate. The results of what you could do with THAT data would be amazing!!! Thus extending the life of your mill and being able to restrict bad situations from happening.
What if we could get the traction control (computerized) system lin our rides just like the STI's???? Oh man, life would be awesome!
Ill shut up now.
newnitrofan
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Just having an O2 sensor is not enough. You would probably want a Throttle position sensor and some sort of sensor to basically check vacuum and when it drops and all that as a type of fail safe just like a 1:1. Problem with just haveing the O2 sensor is how can it really tell when it is too rich and too lean based on just one figure especially for airplanes. As alititued changes so does the air. Then again it might not need it since they don't actually fly that high.
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All i want it to do is have a computer and to tell you like that your car is running to lean or to rich to get optimum performance. And it will tell you how much to tune yor car like 1/8th of a turn or less. Or something like that. And it could keep track of how much gas you ran through it. Also it can tell you if you radio and reciever are functioning properly. Just my 2cents.
