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Here is the Lucky Stick i received in a trade from a great guy Monkey Wrench this thing is incrediable, very well put together plane impressed with the overall size of this thing, tape measure does it no justice i got it together and wow size does matter LOL!:)
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thanks again MW!
 
Looks killer Bro...
Did you go out and taxi it? No I didn't think so..
 
Thanks man, I'm glad it started raining i was half tempted to go out and taxi it, but I'm in no hurry with this one, so we'll wait for a nice sunny day to go play.
 
Thanks Andy overall wingspan is 51 in fuselage is 42 in just blew me away the size of this thing.
 
They are pretty good flyers too. From what I have seen, anyway.

Don't land real hot, but are able to do some pretty decent airobatics.
Good luck with it.
 
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Cool, yeah the flight sim has taught me alot about landing real hot it always ends up with the plane in pieces but I'm glad its on the sim though thanks digger!
 
id like to get a plane, but i hear you can't fly them if there is wind.... is this true?

plane looks awesome man. i really want to get one now.
 
I've seen some of the guys at the field fly on some pretty windy days.
Never been much on a lot of wind myself. That plane should handle it pretty well. Something like those light park flyers I would think they would be a handful.

Super, have you looked at some of the SPAD aircraft? http://www.spadtothebone.com/freeplans.htm I built the BUHOR for about $10? I was almost ashamed to get it out of the truck because it was so ugly. Damn good flyer though.
 
digger said:
This isn't your first one, is it?

Yes this is my first one, why is there something you would like to tell me i'll take all the advice i can get on this one i dont want to see my $$$ go up in flames.

Thanks Supernitro but i had nothing to do with it looking this good!
 
Glad it arrived with no damage! I was worried about that! Just one tip, though. It helps a ton if you put a prop on the engine itself! Aids in moving it around!

Have fun with it! Send some video of it flying when you get a chance, as I never got the chance to fly it!
 
itsme1 said:
Yes this is my first one, why is there something you would like to tell me i'll take all the advice i can get on this one i dont want to see my $$$ go up in flames.
I tried to learn by myself. I didn't do very well. Lost about 4 planes. I didn't have the sim and never was in RC at all though. Finally decided to join a club. By the time I did, I could almost fly.

You have a hell of a better chance than I did. Already have some RC's and spent some time on the sim.

I would recommend joining a club and getting an instructor. Most of the guys there are willing to help anyway they can. Some are pricks, but doesn't take long to figure them out. At least visit one and see if you think you might like it. Another thing about a club, they have a good place to fly.

I know there are a lot of guys here that are self-taught on aircraft. Not dissing them in anyway. Sure not saying that you can't do it. Just saying you stand a better chance at bringing it home in one piece. Think you'll enjoy it more and stay longer. Just my opinion.


How is this? I even found one that should be close to ya? http://www.bellairflyers.com/
 
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That plane is an EXCELLENT trainer with awesome aerobatic capability when you learn to fly. Large wing area with lots of lift, it will fly slow as well as fast. The only thing I can suggest is a bigger engine, it looks like you hav a .20 there (??) and while it will fly fine with a .20 you will LOVE a .40. :D

Other thing, you will probably NOT need that starter on this engine, it's just one more thing to lug around. A pair of heavy leather gloves and a few brisk flips on the prop will start it up very easily.

itsme1 said:
Yes this is my first one, why is there something you would like to tell me i'll take all the advice i can get on this one i dont want to see my $$$ go up in flames.

Okay! Well for a first time flier . . .

1. With the fuel tank full, it is ABSOLUTELY ESSENTIAL that a beginner have a perfect COG (center of gravity.) This allows you to release the controls when you get in trouble and it will glide (see below.) With the fuel and batteries in the plane, have someone put a finger under the center of one wing tip while you do the same on the other. Lift it off the ground. The plane should hang by these two points almost dead level, if it does not, put some putty or other weights inside near the nose or tail until it does. While you can trim out a nose or tail-heavy condition, until you learn to fly it's just going to make it harder.

i was half tempted to go out and taxi it . . . .

2. One of the very first things I learned is that you will do more harm taxiing than getting it off the ground. Air doesn't break wings and props, the ground does. When you try to taxi, you're going to want to get some speed up, it's going to get light on you, begin to wobble right and left, and will try to tip you over. So if you taxi, KEEP SLOW. Promise, you will regret trying to RC it around. :D

3. You tune these a little differently (and easier) than ground RC. Get it started, and hold the plane by the fuselage and/or wings firmly. Throttle it up to about 3/4 throttle. Now point the nose directly skyward. That's right, point the plane straight up. In this position, begin leaning the engine until it bogs (plane engines have a thumbscrew, no screwdriver needed,) then turn it back to rich until it runs smooth. Perfect, you're ready to fly, throttle it back to idle and get ready to NOT crash. :D

4. To take off, you have to trust your intuition and GO for it. Don't try to spin up slow. Set it on the runway, and just hammer that throttle - full forward. Don't horse around. The slow spool up will wind up tipping you over, promise. When you hit full throttle, the torque of the engine will initially make the plane want to snap to the right, so be ready for it - when you throttle up give it just a LITTLE left rudder (LEFT stick) and as it gets up to speed re-center it and GET READY to pull back the right stick. A little FORWARD push on the right stick will keep it on the ground until you're up to speed. If you can gas it hard and keep it in a straight line, you're going to lift off, and with that plane, I'd say in less than 50 feet.

5. If you want to go at it yourself: the very first mistake you're likely to make is over-elevating on takeoff. When you give it some elevator by pulling the right stick back, it points the nose up. You're all adrenalized and nervous as hell, and your brain will associate the back-stick with UP! UP! UP! But what will happen if you hold the elevator back is the nose will continue going up, in essence trying to do a loop before it has enough speed, it will stall and lose lift, roll off to the side and then in you go.

As soon as the wheels leave the ground, LEVEL OFF THE ELEVATOR a little, watch the plane, let it have no more than a 10 degree attitude and let it climb at that attitude and get up to speed. Safely away from the ground, apply a LITTLE back-and-right on the right stick, this will begin to roll it around in a turn. You need to add a little back-stick as you turn to regain the lift you lose when you bank into the turn.

Once it's in the air and the jitters start to go away, you want to KEEP IT CLOSE. You'll be amazed at how fast even a slow flyer will get to a range where you can't read it's attitude. If it starts to go crazy on you, THROTTLE DOWN and RELEASE ALL CONTROLS. That's right, let go of everything - a slow flyer like that should glide just fine, letting go of the controls allows it to recenter itself and glide.

6. Okay how in the hell do you get it back down. :D A landing should consist of a pass right in front of you, a 90 degree turn at the end of the runway (with room to come in,) and another 90 degree turn to line up with the runway and come in, like

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Practice several passes at this at a safe altitude before you try to come in. As you practice the landing pass and it comes past you, throttle down to about half or 1/4 throttle, what you're looking for is the slowest speed it can fly and still maintain control.

When you're ready, make your landing pattern and as you line up with the runway, throttle down, and give little nudges forward on the elevator to drop the altitude. If you're throttled down right, you may not even need to do this - let it come down, smooth and easy, don't let the jitters take control. If you think you're in trouble, throttle up and pull the stick back (but don't forget the takeoff lesson, level it off a little!) and make another pass.

The next part requires balls of steel the first time, but once you do it it will be as easy as blowing an air biscuit. :D When you get better at it, you'll even want to practice this dead-stick, that is, with no power, and with that plane it will be **really** easy because it's got such a high wing area and lots of lift. This requires two steps, and is a smooth motion on the right stick, back then level, to slow it down and set it down.

As it comes in and is no more than 2 feet above the runway, drop the throttle a little more and begin easing back on the elevator (right) stick, watching carefully for a stall. If it starts to stall, ease the stick forward. This is called feathering the landing, and what it does is tips the nose up just before touching down and slows the air speed even more, the tricky part is doing it at just the right altitude. When you feather the landing, it will slow it down and lose lift. Now JUST before it touches down, push the stick back forward (or let go of it) and it will level off and and set on the runway (without bouncing and breaking a prop.) The first time you do it right you will blow a wad, it can be done so the wheels don't even bounce.

Now go for the hooting and hollering. :D

The last bit of advice - FLY AWAY FROM THE SUN. Position yourself so that the sun is ALWAYS at your back, and don't fly behind yourself. This will crash you for sure if you're new at it.

Dammit itsme, now I need to go buy a f***ing plane and get back into fixed wings, just talking about it is giving me a woody. :D That's OK, I just got a Blade CP yesterday, got my hands full here!

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id like to get a plane, but i hear you can't fly them if there is wind.... is this true?

For planes, wind is your friend. Helis, different story. Nothing more fun than tacking a plane into the wind and holding it hovering there. But you have to be able to gauge exactly HOW MUCH wind is too much. 3-5 MPH is awesome, I used to love getting it up to about 500 feet and cutting the engine completely, you can stay up there for hours on a windy day, if you're careful enough to not let it get too far downwind.
 
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digger said:
I've seen some of the guys at the field fly on some pretty windy days.
Never been much on a lot of wind myself. That plane should handle it pretty well. Something like those light park flyers I would think they would be a handful.

Super, have you looked at some of the SPAD aircraft? http://www.spadtothebone.com/freeplans.htm I built the BUHOR for about $10? I was almost ashamed to get it out of the truck because it was so ugly. Damn good flyer though.


those look like cool planes to start with... is that buhor really made of ...cardboard ?? what the hell is going on with that ? and do they sell kits or just plans ?
 
Hey Bill thanks for all the useful info,i really appreciate it, I've logged several hours on the flight sim so some of the stuff you have mentioned I've already experienced on the sim and let me say I'm glad it was on the sim or else id already be out some $$$ I'm going to take it to my neighbor before i begin anything he has built several of these style planes over the years and has a real grasp on how these things should operate, then I'm going to give my local fly club a call and see what i need to do about using there airstrip and getting some pointers before this thing ever leaves the ground, putting this thing together last night gave me wood lol! thanks again guys for all the info i want to have this thing in one piece for a long while so any info is great info.

Thanks
Itsme
 
Supernitro17 said:
those look like cool planes to start with... is that buhor really made of ...cardboard ?? what the hell is going on with that ? and do they sell kits or just plans ?
It's made of "coroplast." It is plastic. Next time you are at a store look at the "Coke" signs that are zip-tied to the poles. Like corragated cardboard, but made of plastic. Ask em to save you the old ones. I have a bunch from the store up the road from me. In there every few days and just asked if they would keep the old ones. A 4x8 sheet costs about $10. Can get 3 planes out of it?

They don't sell the plans for them, don't sell kits. Least on the site I gave you. The plans are free. Just have to put them together. I have read some of the guys putting one together in an evening. Maybe...... If you had built a few.



Itsme1, Glad you have someone that close to help ya. Do as much time on the sim as you can. Find the hardest one on it to control. Master it. Looks like there is a great club where ya live. At least looking at the web-site I would be there watching. Not sure about training, just looks too big. I would like to go to watch.

Stick with your neighbor if he flies pretty good. Let him help ya. The stick is considered a second plane. Only thing I can figure, it is more airobatic? I have seen them land slower than a lot of trainers.
You picked a damn good size. Look at the .40 sized planes. If something does happen, you still have the hardware.

It's not that hard to fly, but it's damn discouraging when you bring back more pieces than you left with.

Good luck Bro, post a vid or 2.
 
The sim has been my best friend as of late every night after work I'm on it for a couple hours, i want to make damn sure I'm confident enough to get this plane in the air, control it and bring back to earth safely, so whatever it takes to do that I'm in, I've pretty much master takeoff and flying the plane, but landing on the other hand is not the easiest thing, my perception of the plane on the landing is off a tad i can get it after a couple tries and a couple of bounces so i guess more practice is inline for me.The club were i live is pretty big they have what they call a fly in every May or June and people from all over the state and the lower BC area bring there planes in and make a whole weekend out of it, so when the time starts to near I'm gonna be there for the next fly in. Thanks for all the help and info Digger i appreciate it.

ITSME
 
The little club I'm in has 2 fun-flys a year. They aren't much though. Got plenty of food. And there is some good flying. Get to spend time with people you haven't seen for a while.

Got a club an hour away that has a pretty good one. Guys are serious. Full sized pick-ups pulling trailers with their aircraft. Usually got one that brings a jet. Those are awesome to watch fly.

Few of the guys went to Joe Nall last year. I didn't have the funds, so I had to stay home. Hope to go in the next couple of years.
 
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