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It looks mostly foreign to me, being unfamiliar with how most pan-car, touring car, or even some on-road car chassis are designed. I wouldnt mind testing one out.
You probably noticed the much better layout, notably the lack of the front “kick-up” that the Arrmas have. That flat center and front chassis orientation removes the high-misalignment front center shaft to differential angle and also allows for actual caster adjustment. The Hobaos are also credited with having more robust differential gears (a lot of hardcore Arrma speed-run guys move to those, and Scorched RC now offers an Arrma diff bulkhead that utilizes the preferred Hobao gears https://scorchedparts.co.uk/product...arrma-6s-speed-cars-conversion-to-hobao-gears) and a much more smooth, vibration free center drivetrain arrangement. The VTE2 and subsequent V2 release are both pretty much considered to be a better mousetrap all the way around as compared to the Arrma Limitless platform, and offer a much greater range of chassis adjustment, especially in regard to the caster settings. The “built in” caster specifications of the Arrma platforms are very extreme due to the front differential kick-up angle and can not be overcome.
Hey Dan! Yeah- I noticed these Hobao cars are very different. Much more technical input. I ended up getting Hobao center dogbones for my Limitless V2. They run much truer. Phased drive pins vs non phased Arrma. Tekno diff cup bulkhead inputs & RamJam titanium spool, & the vibration is gone. So much better. ABEC7 bearings. Perfect Pass gear. Shoot- I should be able to grab 100mph easy w/ the TP4050 1950KV motor.
Dang dude, I think you’re holding out on us over at AF.
I didn’t know the Hobao center shafts fit the V2. And I guess I’ll need to research the phased/non-phased pins thing, that’s super interesting. I’m running the Scorched Trident front setup and their Ti rear shaft, also with the RamJam spool and ABEC-7’s. Put all your info in a build thread, those are some really great specs to share!
I might be holding out a bitDang dude, I think you’re holding out on us over at AF.
The Tekno diff cups are lighter & the ID machined cone is wider, allowing more angle. The back of them are radiused, and have zero drag. The phased pins don't walk back n forth as bad when rotating inside the cups. This setup is much smoother. Found a bunch of information about some of this here, on RC Talk.
Thank you, I’m saving those part numbers! I think the Typhons take 114mm shafts as well, IIRC. I could definitely benefit from those in my SWB cars.
Tekno TKR5075 diff cups. Oddly, the Arrma website states the Notorious, Typhon & Limitless have 116mm front dogbones. They are actually 114mm. (Limitless V2 same front & rear, V1 is different, same as Infraction)
Weird, man. I knew that they shared the front shafts, and thought they were all 114mm. Strange that the Arrma site came up with 116mm. I don’t think that’s the correct size for any Arrma center shaft that I can remember.
Yeah- I measured them before I dug into getting different ones. I set the car up, stock, bench tested it, no tires, & literally nearly flew off the table with vibration. It was in the dogbones & the rear of the Arrma spool output. I rolled the dogbones in a Vee block. 0.015" runout in the center with my dial indicator. Nope. Replaced it all. Both shafts & cups, & spool. I even put rear M2C axle driveshafts in. They are +3mm longer & don't vibrate either. Sucker is smooth. Part number M2C 310456.
I know, I know… 
I would definitely consider one if this Limitless is not what I expect. I studied the suspension geometry. It's very technical & completely adjustable everywhere. That's intriguing.Getting back to the OG topic, I’ve been really tempted to jump into the Hobao pool with a VTE2. The only reason I haven’t is because I’m so married to Arrma that I basically have an entire retail store full of Arrma parts on hand and just couldn’t justify the process or cost of getting “tooled up” so to speak with parts and spares to support another brand. It’s possible I’ll clean house a bit at a later date and streamline things. I really have been drooling over the VTE2’s and, to be honest, a couple of 1/10 TC X-Ray offerings as well.
For speed running, the excessive caster on the Lim is not really a drawback. For an on-road track racer or precision parking lot course basher, the VTE2 has pretty significant advantages.
