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Hey guys, i received my RTR RSV EVO yesterday, and i was excited to get it working, in the manual it says i need to set it idle let it run till it runs out of gas and to do the process twice.

When i start the car the engine starts it runs for about 10 sec then it stalls

What I'm doing wrong???
 
first, leting it idle thru tanks is a outdated method for breaking in engines ...& may auctulaly damage it ...do a search on this forum for break in & you will see a few diferent ideas on break in ....the most common is the heat cycle break in

as for the stalling ...that is probily just a normal break in issue. the engine is running rich right now as it should be.....

also no matter what break in method you use, alway make sure you put the piston at the bottom of its stroke (bdc) when you let it cool ..that very important for the life of your engine
 
you could take out the glow plug, and watch the piston thru the hole..then mark the flywheel so you know when its at bottom without having to remove the glo plug..

or i just leave the glo plug in & turn the flywheel by hand and judge half way between the pinches ( where it gets hard to turn ) ....it doesn't have to be perfectly at bottom ..just dont leave it near the top ....even after its brokin in
 
and you said the best to do heat cycle break in???
so when i run the engine how long do i keep it running??? and when i shut it down, how long do i have to wait before i started again?
 
Johnny...

He said to do a search dude... Tons of info on break in...

I have two of the RS4 Evos and broke them in with the book procedure with no problems, so if you are comfortable with that so be it.

HPI's are known for coming out of the box way rich, you might want to lean out your high speed needle a bit (that's "hsn" on the boards)...

Also, where in FL are you? I might be able to point you towards a good shop or track or maybe even meet up for some racing...
 
i think its best but theres many ideas ...do a search & see what sounds best to you ..

but for heat cycle, you need to get it up to min 190deg for 5 mins .then shut it off untill its compleatly cooled off ( room temp) this will be repeated around 8 times ...i have to go now but do a search & you will find all the info ..good luck
 
When adjusting on the needle valves, a little goes a long way. You might go as little as a 1/16 of a turn or so and it would idle.
I have always broke mine in according to the manual. Haven't had any problems yet. Not knocking the heat cycle method, just haven't did it.
During your break-in you might not be able to remove the glow plug driver because it is running rich. Take your time. Also break-in is hard on the glow plugs. Did ya get extra? Good Luck. Don't get discouraged.
All of us were new at one time. :cheers:
 
I didnt get any extra plugs, and i also noticed when i remove the glow plug ignitor it stalls. How long do i have to keep it in?

thanks for your help Digger
 
I agree with the heat cycle. Here is some info on it


If you are still idling at least a tank through during break-in, you're using the old-school accepted method (still works well for some!) but it's not the method that the top engine guys (Ron Paris, Dennis Richey, Rody Roem, Michael Salven are just a few I've spoken personally with about this) recommend anymore.
From the very 1st time you start your engine, plop the car on the ground & begin running it in a parking lot in 2-3 minute intervals, tuned only *slightly rich* getting the temps up in the 200F range on a normal day. Every 2-3 minutes, shut the engine down & let it cool completely with the piston at BDC, and then fire it back up; continue this cycle until you've run 15 min or so, and then bump up to 3-4 minute intervals. Vary the RPM and don't be afraid to get the temps in the 200's. What you want is heat cycling of the components without the incredible stress that comes with breaking an engine in when it's overly rich & cold. After cycling the engine in this mannerfor about 20-25 total minutes, it'll be ready for the track and race tuning. I realize this method goes against the old-school "idle on the box" routine, but you'll be amazed once you've completed this break-in routine, your OS will still have amazing pinch w/out sticking at the top AND your OS's compression will last far longer than it will with the "old school" method.
You say you run the engine at "factory settings" for the first FIVE tanks? That alone causes lots of stress, as the factory OS settings are very rich on every OS I've ever owned or tuned. The piston & sleeve haven't expanded to operating temps, and every time the engine turns over, the piston slams into the pinch zone at TDC. The not-so-surprising result can be a cracked con-rod at the crank pin--that's where the majority of the stresses occur as the engine turns over. I've only heard of about 6-8 OS engines breaking con-rods, and they're ALWAYS during the first gallon...and almost every time it's because the guys have performed the break-in procedure you described. Doesn't seem like a mystery as to why it's happening. Drawing out the break-in routine really stresses the engine & actually wears away compression along the way. This method I've outlined will feel weird at every step, but after you try it once, you'll notice a big difference in your engine's performance & lifespan.
 
johnnynfl05 said:
thanks for all your help pilot


call me retard ..LOL

digger & smaxxn are giving great advice ...thats pretty much the way i brake engines in

& you WILL need some extra glow plugs, they just go out from time to time ...sometimes more othen
 
May be running too rich to remove the glow driver at all, till ya start leaning it some.
 
thanks guys, i finished breaking it in yesterday and after few tanks it just wont start so i checked the plug and it was bad and i called it for the day since i dont have an extra one but today I'm getting a bunch,

its a big difference between nitro and electric
and i used to think electric was fun
lol
 
woo hoo, as long as your heads in the game. & you dont mind working on it as well as running it. your gonna have a blast..

i just noticed your name ....**who is johnny** ..#5 is alive :)
 
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Glad you are having fun. If you are finished with the break-in, now comes the fun. Takes a bit to tune, but its worth it. The more ya do, the easier it gets.
The glow plugs should last longer after ya get it tuned. Good Luck.
 
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