F'n theives! And some Paypal Questions...

[vbgagnon]

I've been using PP for 5 years now, and my dad has been using it for 2-3, neither of us had been hit until now. My dad had somebody hack his account and bought a $200 cell phone with his cash.

My question is how would one stop this from happening?


I wish I could just have 5 minutes with this dirtbag, 5 min thats all I ask! UGGHGHGG

 

[HeartBreak]

Well, first off, contact paypal and file a fraud complaint. If they won't help (most likely they won't), contact the bank and have them stop payment on the withdrawal. Unless it's a credit card, then have them do a reversal.

Next, the arsewipes that hacked into his paypal... About the only way they could have done that is phished his password. Have him go to paypals main site, and change his password ASAP, while it is still under his control.

I hope that helps!

edit; also, contact the place the cellphone was purchased from and cancel the order. All the info needed should be in the transaction information.

 

[dannyd]

yeah do what heartbreak said. thats messed up what happened to your dad. hope all goes well and you meet the guy who did it. remember its only murder if your caught.jk LMAO

 

[Nubster]

My debit card got hacked not too long ago and someone bought over $600 worth of concert tickets over in Sweden. Luckily my bank gave me all my money back. I also have a paypal account out there that has $700 sitting in it that I lost the password to and am having a heck of a time getting paypal to do anything with.

 

[truthseeker]

hmmm...it's starting to look like having 6 days for stuff to clear might be a GOOD thing. maybe i WON'T put a card on there after all...

 

[Plaidfish]

can't PP can find the IP addy used to access their site....
I had someone COPY my card and bought 10k in camera equipment.....the cop told me the scoop....I give my debit card to the waiter...he writes or carbon copies the number... then prints a plastic card w/ raised letters from a modified Credit card imprinting machine...the magnetic strip on the back is a dud so when the cashier swipes it they have to enter the number manually and ask for I.D.....that's where it's easy...since they are pressing the cards at will they use their name and their I.D...the cashier is supposed to write down the card holders I.D. info (DL #)...but they almost never do.....if they start to do it the customer/theif can just cancel the purchase and walk away.....nice scam huh??....mine was copied from a restaurant I visit every week by a new waiter....I recognized the name from the purchase and they caught the fiddlesticker.......but the funny thign was he went to a wolf camera and bought camera equipment....the store said they have no security cameras.....HMMMM that's odd...camera store in a mall w/ no security cams....I have a feeling the manager was in on it....she wasn't working there 2 months after my card was hit, and I was in that mall...I just stopped in and asked to speak w/ her.....they said she no longer worked there.....

 

[WoodiE]

Next, the arsewipes that hacked into his paypal... About the only way they could have done that is phished his password. Have him go to paypals main site, and change his password ASAP, while it is still under his control.

HeartBreak is 100% right on this, they got the password from your dad one way or another. First I'd run Ad-aware, spybot S&D, and Microsofts anti-spyware programs just to make sure there isn't any kind of spyware or key loggers on his computer. After which change his paypal password, then tell your dad to never ever ever ever never never ever never ever ever click on a "paypal link" via email... NEVER!!!!

If there's a problem have him manually click on IE or Firefox and type the url himself, if there really is a message to him paypal will show it to him upon logging in - So NEVER EVER EVER NEVER NEVER NEVER EVER EVER click on anything via email... NEVER!



-Michael

 

[truthseeker]

soooo....do you mean never? or just sometimes....i'm not sure i understand...

 

[rocknbil]

Well never ever ever . . . if you're not 100% sure who it's from. If we followed that advice, no one would be able to sign up on RCNT!

Anything that prompts you to go somewhere and log in - screw that. Open up the mail headers and forward to [email protected].

Eudora has a neat feature, when you mouse over a link, it has a context pop-up that says "the actual URL is not the same as the URL in the body of the letter." A sure give-away.

There is a VERY GOOD phish-mail going about right now. Something like "non-paying bidder strike." It actually had me thinking for a minute, because I have some transactions going on. The URL was so well spoofed it **almost** looked like an eBay email. But then the auction #'s were all wrong. On it went to [email protected].

 

[NCNitro]

Scumbags tried to get me today. I got a e-mail from pay-pal verifying that I had just made a payment of $389 + $15 tax for a watch?!?!? I called them immediately, no way in hell am I spendin that on a watch, hell I don't ever wear a watch. Anyway it had a link in the e-mail that said if you did not order this click this link to dispute it, yeah right, ass klowns think were stupid. I called pay-pal and filed a complaint immediately! I HATE scumbag thieves!!!!

 

[WoodiE]

Well never ever ever . . . if you're not 100% sure who it's from. If we followed that advice, no one would be able to sign up on RCNT!

That's not true at all - the emails we send from RCNT NEVER NEVER EVER EVER NEVER EVER ask you to input your password, nor does the page that the links in our emails do. Only to activate your account - no password needed EVER!

So following this advice would still allow you to join the best RC forum on the net


-Michael

 

[rocknbil]

You said

So NEVER EVER EVER NEVER NEVER NEVER EVER EVER click on anything via email... NEVER!

But the vBulletin signup process sends out an email that says

To complete your registration, click on the link below:
https://www.rcnitrotalk.com/forum/register.php?a=act&u=XXXX&i=YYYYY

So if you don't click the link your account never gets activated. After re-reading your post, I'm guessing your last 'graph means "from payPal."

 

[vbgagnon]

Well guys here is some advice. NEVER LISTEN TO YOUR WIFE/SIGNIFICANT OTHER!! period!

I was at work this morning and she calls me in a panic. Dad's paypal got charged for $200 dollars to buy a cell phone.....(input drama here)

So figuring she was my wife, and I believed her I made the post. So I decided to call dad and see what was up. It turns out he was sent an email saying that he won the auction and that they needed his credit card info. Long story short. Nothing came of it, it was a scam email.

 

[SMaxxin]

Well guys here is some advice. NEVER LISTEN TO YOUR WIFE/SIGNIFICANT OTHER!! period!

I was at work this morning and she calls me in a panic. Dad's paypal got charged for $200 dollars to buy a cell phone.....(input drama here)

So figuring she was my wife, and I believed her I made the post. So I decided to call dad and see what was up. It turns out he was sent an email saying that he won the auction and that they needed his credit card info. Long story short. Nothing came of it, it was a scam email.

LOL Now thats funny!

Just to stay on the safe side I never even open emails from eBay or PayPal, I imediantly delete them and log into my account, there will be a notice if they or another member is trying to contact you.

 

[nitrost]

i just looked at mine and some dueschbag tried purchasing something for 10 bucks. at NAA*NATIONAL A-1 PHILADELPHIA PA. have no clue what it is but luckly i transfered all my money in my banking account a couple of days ago.

hope you get the money back and the scumbag gets caught.

 

[Plaidfish]

NItrost, if the bank account is tied to your PP account the money will automatically be transferred back....

 

[nitrost]

it is,but the link for for the action was denied and it was since march 4th and nothing happened. the wierd thing was it said it was with my debit card witch i got like 2 weeks ago. and have only used it once and that was at a gas station. so far i have contacted paypal, changed my pp pasword and have changed my pin number.

 

[MonsterCowpower]

This is scary news,and the problem is too many of these scumbags get away with this type of fraud.

To all these rats may they rott in hell.

Credit cards,bank cards nothing is safe! And the worst is net transactions are no longer safe because of all the spyware lurking in most people's computers.

 

[dannyd]

these kinds of stories have me thinking if having a paypal account is worth it. i want it to shop online for stuff but i can't afford to get robbed.

 

[HeartBreak]

I have a paypal account myself. Both my bank account and visa check card are tied to it. I've had my account pretty much since Paypal came into existance, and have not had one single issue with it.

I do follow some common-sense safety tips (these are ones I give to clients on a handy little reference sheet):

What to do in the event of a questionable internet situation:

First, take a couple of breaths, and calm down as much as possible. Keeping a level head helps save you money.

#1: NEVER GIVE YOUR PASSWORD TO ANYONE, not even if they are family!!

#2: NEVER FOLLOW ANY LINKS IN EMAILS TO WEBSITES, unless you are signing up for an account and it needs activation (like this forum).

#3: Keep your password on a peice of paper in your wallet, or somewhere safe, so you do not forget it.

#4: Change your password often, and keep note of it. Once every 90 days is more than sufficient.

#5: Never give your password to ANYONE that calls you and asks for it. ALWAYS to go the main site that you signed up at, and enter it there.

#6: DON'T CLICK ON ANYTHING THAT SAYS YOU'VE WON, FREE, OR FLASHES.

#7: Nothing is truely free on the internet.

#8: In the event that you notice a transaction that you or a loved-one did not make, contact the bank, credit card, paypal (if involved), ebay, and the seller. Change your passwords ASAP, including your bank password (if you have online bank access). Change your card pin numbers as well.

#9: Run anti-virus and spyware cleanouts at a regular interval (at least every other day), or call me and set up an appointment. If you think your computer has ANY spyware on it, please do NOT enter any passwords or credit card numbers on it, and keep it off the internet until the spyware is removed.


If you guys want to, you can copy this sheet and give it to people you know/clients.