Okay I am hooked guys, this 25bb Savage is the poop!!!!! I am going to start going thru my 21 bb slowly converting it over to a 25. The first thing I am going to get is some new shock springs. Anyone out there know where to get a good set of springs? I want a firmer set than the stock ones on my truck now, it bottoms out pretty bad right now, and you can't get the new 25 black springs yet, so what else is out there would be equal to them and where can you get them Thanks always for the info Steve