better performance. Electric or gas????

[dj_doogle]

Besides, nitro is cheaper than ya think over in the UK. £20 a gallon !

just wonderin where do u get that much nitro from for that price??? please tell me !

 

[spee-d]

if you have the cash electric is the way to go. if you take 2 of the same trucks say the stock t-maxx 2.5 vs stock e-maxx the t-maxx will blow it away you have to spend $150-$175 on a mamba maxx 7700 then $90-$125 per battery. that gets the t-maxx even with the e-maxx. i`m a nitro guy, but i`m not knocking electric you just have to spend more cash to get the performance out of an electric. OK I`M READY FOR THE BASHING.

 

[alpinehyperlite]

that still sucks having to carry like 4 batterys if you want to run for more than a few min.

So, u would rather carry rig, tuning screw driver, fill bottle, fuel bottle, easy/roto start, ignitor, radio, and temp gun,


or
rig batteries radio.

Not to mention the reciever's in nitro rigs still need batteries to operate.

 

[Metalhead Matt]

But you could also say what are they used for? Racing, drifting, bashing I'm sure there are diff situations where electric is better then situations where nitro is better.

I still don't like the fact that electric you can only run for like 45 min. LOL. I run my nitro for hours and hours at a time.

I can't think of a situation where a nitro would be better than electric. An electric motor runs exactly the same way every time(I know they wear out). Nitros require tuning, which makes them run a little different. I'm sure some people have their perfect running nitro that only needs a small adjustment for the weather, but an electric will always be smoother running. Leading to more control. Chalk another one up for electric.

 

[alpinehyperlite]

I can't think of a situation where a nitro would be better than electric. An electric motor runs exactly the same way every time(I know they wear out). Nitros require tuning, which makes them run a little different. I'm sure some people have their perfect running nitro that only needs a small adjustment for the weather, but an electric will always be smoother running. Leading to more control. Chalk another one up for electric.

and we can crawl!!!

 

[Wicked!!]

And just be simply boring.

Electric is the easy way out.

Nitro takes a little more time but a way better satisfaction.

 

[Crunkvilletx]

I'm more into nitro because I like working on my rig every chance I can, tuning is fun. Electric is more for little kids and girls that don't know what there doing?

 

[Wicked!!]

What he said.

I have built so my R/C's but my best memory is the first time I got my LST2 going. The sound of the motor and know that I was going to have to tune this sucker to get it going right was awesome. THen seeing it rip around and shift into 2nd at the perfect time.........WICKED

 

[ThunderTiger]

and we can crawl!!!

Really ?? you can crawl ? so can i, i learnt how to do that when i was a baby !!! :

Anyway, back to the point of R/C crawling, i have good throttle control and much like anyone else, with practice, i dare say i could crawl damn well with a nitro rig. So i doubt it would or could ever be an exclusivly electric powered area of ther hobby.

Somehow, i do not see 1:1 scale crawlers being purely "Battery" powered, but i AM CERTAIN most, if not all of them, run on petrol or diesel engines.

Electric is cheating. Those with a good sense of throttle input to their nitro engine can crawl just as well if not better with a little patience and practice. With electric, you need less finesse and throttle input skill. PERIOD !

just wonderin where do u get that much nitro from for that price??? please tell me !

I use bekra 16 heli fuel dj_doogle, slightly more oil in it which is good for the engine. I get it from my LHS, but it gone upto £24/£25 now.

DAMN ECONOMIC INFLATION !!!

Bekra 16% is OK for bashing my buggy around on the 21 engine, but i use 25% for my o.s 30 s/charged engine.

 

[alpinehyperlite]

Anyway, back to the point of R/C crawling, i have good throttle control and much like anyone else, with practice, i dare say i could crawl damn well with a nitro rig. So i doubt it would or could ever be an exclusivly electric powered area of ther hobby.

Somehow, i do not see 1:1 scale crawlers being purely "Battery" powered, but i AM CERTAIN most, if not all of them, run on petrol or diesel engines.

The reason for the 1:1 crawling so well, is the ability to work throttle and brake at the same time, unlike with nitro rigs, Due to a single servo/channel controling the throttle and brake, it makes it nearly impossible to have the starting and stopping ability of the electric rigs/1:1 rigs. The only way possible would be if the brake was engaged constantly. Also with the RPM's having to rise considerably to even engage the clutch of a nitro, it would make it extremely difficult, if even possible at all to control the different grades of incline with how much throttle to consistantly keep power to the wheels, and make sudden changes in the speeds. Much of the ability with the electric crawlers is within the gearing. It enables the rig to be able to go the same speed on flat ground as on a steep incline, all while using the same ammount of throttle.

I have run nitro, electric, and large scale gassers. So i know what it takes to keep all three running. I am a firm believer that it is in each persons mind on which is the best, but the question asked, Which has most power and accel, it would deffinatly be the electrics, hands down. I know how much power a nitro motor has, and it is an amazing ammount for such a tiny mill, but the ability to throw all of its power in a matter of miliseconds, and to have the exact same "tune" making it completly consistant, gives the electric rigs a huge advantage.

 

[ThunderTiger]

Spring rates can be changed on nitro clutches which also changes the point of engagement. There is also a thing called "Drag" brake, which engages the brake when the throttle is lett of. I run my buggy that way. There is also the ability to use a third radio channel for a seperate brake servo, thus enabling throttle input to be balanced at a point of engagement to a point of easy re-engagement. (will be trying this soon).

Anyway, this is totally :OT: and i am aware of that so i'm going to shut up about it.

I Still say with the right set up, Nitro CAN match Electric powered rigs. HOWEVER, each has it's specific advantages in specific circumstances. The way i see Nitro Vs Electric is that both are equal depending, of course, on set-up.

 

[plugged1]

Personally, I don`t care if electric is faster. I enjoy the ability/need to work on the engine, and the fact that it takes a certain amount of learning and skill. I had electric cars when I was young, and they always reminded me more of a power drill on wheels. If I`m going to drive around a "little car", I want just that..smoke and noise...not some glorified power tool.:

 

[Cupooterluvr]

Personally, I don`t care if electric is faster. I enjoy the ability/need to work on the engine, and the fact that it takes a certain amount of learning and skill. I had electric cars when I was young, and they always reminded me more of a power drill on wheels. If I`m going to drive around a "little car", I want just that..smoke and noise...not some glorified power tool.:

+1. Electric may be 'easier' but who cares when all it is is just a speed machine. You don't get the full experience with an electric, even if they are fun to drive (I love my RC18t ) they'll never beat the sound and smell of a nitro or gasoline burning RC engine.

 

[ThunderTiger]

AMEN!!!! you to guys hit the nail on the head !!

not some glorified power tool

.... ROFLMFAO !! NICE ONE !!!

 

[alpinehyperlite]

All i can say is two words, "Wana Race?"

 

[Metalhead Matt]

Spring rates can be changed on nitro clutches which also changes the point of engagement. There is also a thing called "Drag" brake, which engages the brake when the throttle is lett of. I run my buggy that way. There is also the ability to use a third radio channel for a seperate brake servo, thus enabling throttle input to be balanced at a point of engagement to a point of easy re-engagement. (will be trying this soon).

Anyway, this is totally :OT: and i am aware of that so i'm going to shut up about it.

I Still say with the right set up, Nitro CAN match Electric powered rigs. HOWEVER, each has it's specific advantages in specific circumstances. The way i see Nitro Vs Electric is that both are equal depending, of course, on set-up.

I'd love to see that train wreck. Smoked clutch, overheating engine. And the 1:1 thing is so far off the mark. The guys at 4WOR are pumped about electric powered vehicles becoming more common. So they can mod them for rock crawling and have the advantage of 100% torque and control right from the start.

 

[ThunderTiger]

Yo alpine, i'm not coming to the states from the uk just to "Race". too damned expensive !!

 

[Metalhead Matt]

Yo alpine, i'm not coming to the states from the uk just to "Race". too damned expensive !!

Long way to go to lose. I like nitro better, but electric wins hands down. Lots of good points made by everyone in this thread. Lots of fun. Brushless is the last nail in nitro's coffin on this subject.

 

[gixxersixxerman]

while I'm new to nitro, i can say i have always been fasanated by the sound, but with electric, i can grab some packs and plug them in and enjoy, so far after a week of owning this revo 3.3 the only thing I've enjoyed was putting it up, its been frustrating me every time i try to tune it, and the two lhs dont want nothing to do with it unless i pay them big bucks to tune because i didnt buy it from them...

 

[Metalhead Matt]

while I'm new to nitro, i can say i have always been fasanated by the sound, but with electric, i can grab some packs and plug them in and enjoy, so far after a week of owning this revo 3.3 the only thing I've enjoyed was putting it up, its been frustrating me every time i try to tune it, and the two lhs dont want nothing to do with it unless i pay them big bucks to tune because i didnt buy it from them...

Start a post about it. We'll get ya up and runnin'.