are titanium cvd that much better than steel

[bigboystoysguy]

hey guys:bunny:
whats the deal are titanium cvd so much better that they are that exspensive?? i have mip shiny cvds and they rock necer had aproblem and they were decent priced. man o man are those titanium ones are$$$$. so any one know some fairly priced ones and know why they are so $$$$ to begin with:buggy1:

 

[olds97_lss]

I know of only one set and that's gpm's. And they are $63

http://www.hobbyetc.com/cgi-bin/item.cgi?part_id=24835

From what i've read about titanium it's benifits of steel is that it's stronger, but iit's downside is that it's more brittle.

Instead of bending, they shatter. I don't know what titanium is, but it seems to have some of the characteristics of high carbide steel. With the exception of not rusting.

 

[30%NitroBoy]

Hey,

Like Olds I'm not exactly sure of the exact molecular structure and general properties of Titanium....lol I do know that it's what many consider a great combination of strength and leight weight for different applications. I change my mind often in this hobby and like FastEddy I'll rip out a part regardless of how expensive it is, if it doesn't peform well for me. I keep changing my mind but I've decided to run the stock Maxx plastic centerdrive and Titanium CVD's front and rear. I ordered the GPM's form the site above as I can't c myself spending $240+shipping for a front and rear set of Ti cvd's from UE. UE has great products but their prices often suck ass. UE is the Porsche 911 Turbo of aftermarket Maxx in their performance and inflated price. I'll get back with everyone on how the GPM Ti cvd's perfrom when everything is running.

When anything on your Maxx is spinning and transfering power and torque you need to consider rotational mass and it's relation to strength or lack their-of. Titanium has less rotaional mass then steel but it doesn't give as much and you might not even c a difference with CVD's. Titanium doesn't bend like stell so it's likely to snap when the chit hits the fan..lol.

Strength is a very relative and confusing to many.

BTW...I prefer a "shiny" finish for CVD's but if the GPM's peform well then I'll be happy for the price.

Peace

 

[olds97_lss]

Actually i did a search on the molecular structure of titanium. In it's purest state, it's clearer than a diamond. But it's mixed with other stuff. So who really knows how much titanium is really in any of the stuff we pay top $ for. We read about the aluminum and different grades, but everyone takes the word titanium like that's all there is.

From what i found, it's not. There are many grades, just like steel.

Here's the site in case your bored or waiting for good weather like me:
http://pearl1.lanl.gov/periodic/elements/22.html

 

[Digital Liquid]

Hey big,
I use the GPM ones that Olds has a link to. I like them alot. Although I have not run the the MIP, I can't give you a good comparison. All I can say is that the GPM ones have taken some abuse and have not given me any problems. They transfer the power from my motor straight to my tires. Check out my gallery to see some pics.

I bought mine from this website, they have titanium and steel. They are half the price that hobbyetc is selling them for:

Titanium $35 (1 Pair)

Steel $20 (1 Pair)

Later....:mex: :mex: :mex:

 

[olds97_lss]

Hey DL, do you have a link that works for the titanium ones? I went to hobby etc and they are still $63?

Thanks.

 

[alkyula]

while talking about titanium and different grades/amounts...up top someone said that titanium is brittle and doesn't bend but break...whats up with the titanium glasses frames that you can crush in your hand and they spring back? and plus they have some very high price/quality fishing rods that have titanium strands in them for increased strengh/sensitivity? (obviosly fishing robs havto bend) or maybe thats a totaly diff grade of titanium..but then it shouldnt be called titanium anymore if it has that much of a difference in properties..

 

[30%NitroBoy]

Originally posted by Digital Liquid
Hey big,
I use the GPM ones that Olds has a link to. I like them alot. Although I have not run the the MIP, I can't give you a good comparison. All I can say is that the GPM ones have taken some abuse and have not given me any problems. They transfer the power from my motor straight to my tires. Check out my gallery to see some pics.

I bought mine from this website, they have titanium and steel. They are half the price that hobbyetc is selling them for:

Titanium $35 (1 Pair)

Steel $20 (1 Pair)

Later....:mex: :mex: :mex:

Yo dude, Could you please post a link to that website as that's allot less then I payed. I can always return the ones that I already bought.

Peace

 

[Digital Liquid]

Sorry about the links. I'll give it a second shot.

GPM Racing Homepage

T-Maxx Hop Up Parts List for GPM Racing

Steel Drive Shaft $20

Steel Swing Shaft $21

Titanium Swing Shaft $36

Remember that if you order the swing shafts, you need two pair. One pair for the front & one for the rear.

I'll admit that I was skeptical about ordering from them since it comes from overseas (Hong Kong). But I received my goods in about 7 days, which is pretty fast considering where they come from.

After I installed them, I will say that they were a pretty good investment for a hop-up. Straight transfer of power from the motor to my tires.

Another thing to compliment the titanium shafts are some aluminum locking hex nuts. These are the best. They are made nicely and a set of 4 is only $11 (that includes shipping). They use included O-rings to secure your axle pin as it's placed THROUGH the hex instead of behind it. This saves it from falling out every time you change your tire. Plus the rubber O-ring helps lock the hex into place on the rim. Definitely well worth more than $11.

Here is a pic & links:

ACNCM Homepage

Drive Hub Hex w/ O-Ring $11

These pics are not from my truck, but rather from a review that www.trilordy.com did on them.

Hope this helps. Later....:trashed: :trashed: :trashed:

 

[olds97_lss]

DL,

Your link still doesn't work:
http://www.***********/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=420_426_331_85&products_id=2113

Notice the www.********** in it? This takes you nowhere.

Sorry to be a pain, but i'd really like to find those for the price you quoted.
Thanks.

I tried those o-ring axle nuts on my xtm shafts. They didn't line up correctly and created binding when i tightened the wheel nut down on them.

I checked with ACNCM about it and they said that they were designed for stock axles and work on stock axles. So i was out of luck.

Just an FYI.

 

[Digital Liquid]

I think there is some kind of block on this forum which blocks the website. I don't know why.

Here is the web address. This time I will try to use a code so it will not get blocked with little (*) all the time.

www.r-c-m-a-r-t.com

Take out all of the hyphens (-), and you have the web address.

Or you can use this link to take you straight to the T-Maxx Hop Ups. Again just copy & paste this link, but remember to take out the hypens (-) in the web address.

http://www.r-c-m-a-r-t.com/catalog/default.php?cPath=420_426_331_85

Let me know if this does not work & I can just email you the link, so it won't get blocked by this forum.

The ACNCM Hex work fine on with the GPM Titanium Swing Shafts. That is the setup that I have, and have not had any problems. But thanks for the heads up about them not working with other shafts.

Later...:smoke: :smoke: :smoke:

 

[olds97_lss]

Thanks DL.

I still have the ACNCM nuts though. I'll use them when i order a set of these suckers.

What engine are you running with these? Any idea how much fuel you've run through since you installed them?

I try to make a point to know stuff like this so i can tell if they are worth buying again or recommending to others.

Thanks.

 

[Digital Liquid]

I only have about 5 tanks on the Titanium Shafts and so far so good. I just got them in December and haven't been running the truck that much do to the cold. But they seem to take the cold weather just fine, unlike the stock plastic stuff which can get brittle if it gets too cold.

As far as my engine goes, it is the stock Maxx 2.5 engine w/ Motor Saver Air Filter - Robinson Racing Vented Flywheel - Sirio Big Bore Pipe.

Later...:hypno: :hypno: