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well my next door nieghbor had integy shocks on his savage and he came in my yard with it and we were bashing together. I have a raided driveway prob about 3ft. from the ground and 2 large wooden jumps one proped up on the side of the drivway so it was even higher LOL (good for backflips) but inbetween the drivway and jumps he managed to fold one completely in half and bent 3 others. He had bent 2 another time so he only has like one left and the stocks hold up great! LOL stay away from integy stuff. And today i ended up blowing my front diff my trucks only 5 days old LOl and he blew hid rear one. We did some pretty good bashing.
 
yea the integy stuff i bought for my maxx was all crap too. Noway ill buy anything with the name integy on it for my savage or anything else for that matter.
 
which set were they? I have the newer MSR5's. I havn't ran 'em yet but I hope they hold up a little better than the MSR4's supposedly do.
 
I'm glad you added this info. I was about to order a set of 8 Integy piggy back shocks for $99, and thought they were pretty cheap since I had recently gotten 4 Losi shocks for $80 and I had to assemble them.
Thanks for the thumbs down on these. You just saved me some money and also the aggravation of breaking them.
 
yup N/P i glad i kept atleast one peron from buying them. LOL

i heard that 4 UE shocks (one on each corner) is a nice set up and i think the UE ones are only $60 for 4 of em' and you know theyre quality since its UE.
 
That's the setup I was going for. One on each corner. It would also lower the ride almost 1/2" since they were Losi front shocks. The springs that came with them were way too stiff, so they're off for now, till I get softer springs.
 
I will have to disagree with you on the statement that Integy shocks aren't any good.
I can't give any input as to the performance on a Savage however on the T-Maxx they work fine.

On the same RC I have used. Stock Traxxas,BBs, AE, Losi, and Integys.
Minus the stock shocks, for the most part the performance characteristics of all the above are near the same. Each has their own way of filling and bleeding. I have found that the Integy shocks have one definite advantage over the others. The advantage is they don't go flat as fast as others due to the extra fluid they hold and the the additional piggyback that helps keep the air from mixing up in the shock body.

Any shock will bend if the impact is great enough. No need to blame the shocks for a bad landing. The way the shocks are setup will cause the shafts to bend as well. To heavy of an oil will take its toll on a set of shocks real quick. Proper setup is important to maintain a healthy shock.

Rolex,
I'm not sure if I misread your post but using 4 Losi shocks may not be the way to go. For now the ultimate setup is to use 4 Buggy shocks. The buggy shocks are a lot beefier than a 1/10th scale shock and will work great.

Again, I feel the Integy shocks strength wise are no better or worse than any of the leading 1/10th shocks on the market.
 
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I have bent two Integy's in less than a week and was not hard on the truck. Had it off a one foot jump. I replaced the bent shafts and in less than a week bent two different Integy's.
I really don't like the Integy's on the Savage and I will run them all to the grave before I switch to something else.
However, I do like my Integy single shock set up on my TMAXX and have had no problems on that truck. I just wouldn't use Integy shocks on the Savage ever again.
 
Does Integy make them for Savages? I ahve seen them only for Tmaxx's and MGT's.
 
Yeah Integy makes shocks for the savage, thats what everyone has been complaining about lol...
 
I've also had some "experience" with my Integy Savage shocks. I picked up the MSR4 ver2(3.5mm shafts) a couple months ago and wrote up a little review on em on another forum I'm on...

I immediately noticed how thick the shafts were! My buddy and I calipered a stock 3mm shaft and the Integy shaft and sure enough, they're bigger. Here's a pic of the stock shaft and the 3.5mm Integy shaft...
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Here's the measurement of a stock shaft in a Hot Bodies shock that I took off of the truck...
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And here's the measurement of the Integy...
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So I do as they say and put 20 wt oil in them (against my better judgement). It seemed very,very soft. Very little dampening with that thin oil. So I take her out for a test run. Make a few laps and jumps and take a few tumbles. Nothing out of the ordinary. Actually very tame compared to usual. Come around the corner and I notice my rear end sagging. Bring her in and sure enough, BENT SHAFT! Now I'm pissed, but I put one of the few Hot Bodies I had that still had a straight shaft to at least finish out the tank of fuel. Make a few more lamps and jumps around the track. Come around the turn and notice my front end is dragging. Yep, ANOTHER BENT $#@%ING SHAFT! I took it and just put it up for the day after that. I just E-Mailed Integy earlier to see what they will do about it. I'm waiting for a response from them on it now. Hopefully they will stand behind these and replace these shafts and possibly give me an idea of what could prevent this I'm thinking this 20wt oil is definately not the way to go for one
Here's what they look like now...
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After that, I emailed Integy support for assistance. They sent me back an email pretty quickly and were no problem to get replacements from. This was their email to me...

Thank you for your e-mail inquiry. Please check to see if you have the 3.0mm or the 3.5mm shafts, let us know that and your mailing address...we'll send you a different set of shock shaft (harder ones). There are several other things you might want to check to ensure trouble free operation.

Please make sure that you're using light weight shock oil. (Ex. 15 or 20 weight shock oil) Also, check to see if the shocks have too much oil...if the shock shaft cannot go all the way into the shock body or if the shafts rebound, the shocks have too much oil and you can bleed the shocks by opening their caps to allow some oil to come out. There should be a foam insert inside each of the piggyback reservoir.

If you are landing big jumps, try using a harder spring set. This allow the springs to absorb more of the truck's weight during landing rather than relying of the shock's damping alone. If you want to run a harder spring set, you can use the Purple Savage Spring along with the stock Savage plastic rod ends and Spring Retainers. If the shock shafts still bend on your truck, it's possible to use the original HPI shock shafts from the plastic Savage shocks. Some racers like the original HPI stainless steel shock shafts better.
If you're using the stock plastic shock tower, please check to make sure that the piggybacks clear the plastic shock tower. You might need to remove small amount of plastic from the shock tower in order for the piggyback to move freely. If you're using our alloy shock tower, it's not an issue.

Best Regards,
Tech Support


About a week later, I received the set of shafts and verious aother orings, washers, etc.
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So then, after I got the parts, I decided I'd give them a little overhaul before reinstalling and running tham...

First thing was to empty that rediculously light 20wt oil that Integy recommends. As I was doing so I realized that not only did I have the 2 severely bent shaft, at least 4 of them were bent to some extent Luckily they sent me the entire set of 8 "HD" shafts. Also, I noticed that some of the pistons weren't even attached to the shafts anymore because the e clips had come off and been crushed! So I reinstall all the pistons with new e clips onto the new shafts. Also replaced the orings in the two that were bent at 90 degrees. Then I placed a small fuel line limiter onto the shafts to stop them from extending so far. About 3/8 inch long or so. You can really tell the difference in the amount of slop in the shafts when fully extended now. Here's a pic of the fueline on a shaft..
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I then installed all of the shafts with limiters back in the bodies and filled with 35wt oil. Put some limiters on the shafts outside of the shock body to prevent any bottoming out, stuck on the light green, stiffest set from the Integy sping kit and was all done. Now they actually feel like shocks again instead of just some water filled springs Hopefully this will stop the shaft bending problems. I'll put 'em through a good test on our track this weekend and let you guys know what happened. Here's a few pics of 'em installed on the Savage. Also figured I'd buy her something nice to try and convince her to act right so I picked up an American CNC head for the Picco too
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Those bent shafts looked similar to my bent Integy's. I did what you did as far as follow the recommended 20wt oil and sure enough they bent. However before I tried the 20wt oil with the silver springs that the MSR4's came with, I tried some 50wt and some 40wt and both seemed to have no recoil in the shocks. They actually felt really stiff with 50wt and 40wt oil as if they would have bent on the first bounce. So I went with 20wt oil with the silver springs again and the truck just seemed to sag with no spring action at all. So then I went again with the recommended 20wt oil with the stock .25 black springs and those seemed to lift the truck to it's ride height and had great spring action but I still think the Integy shocks sucked after all this experimenting resulting in bent shock shafts.
And one other thing I did try is the several different spring rates for the Integy shocks and they all pretty much sucked.
 
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So since all of that, I have given them four weekends of severe testing(aka beating the living crap out of them :smoke: ) and I haven't had one more problem out of them. No bending, sticking, nothing. They are handling very well now and no leaks like from all the others I've tried. So I would say, if you don't mind going through a little "fixing" them out of the package, these shocks are very good upgrades.

So now for the real bad news :( This weekend we were getting in soem really good running on our track. I come around the big turn headed for our huge front "quad" and I come down right into one of the posts on the siltfence on the edge of the lane. Front a arm/wheel section contacted post. Snapped post and here is the aftermath. Broken bulks, hings pin brace, hinge pin, shock end, upper shock tower screw, bent the hell out of a shaft and who knows what else until I break her down :shrug: Oh well, I was all caught up on my wrenching anyway :)
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Thanks man. I don't know what was up with the pic links. I think photobucket was acting up or something. Looks like they're all working now :)
 
I have to recommend running the buggy shocks on the savage and the maxx. I run 4 on both trucks.

The only downside on the savage is that you have to buy $60 worth of upper arms from new era to use them... but they are well worth the $.
 
Yeah...The MSR4's are well know for bending shafts. Almost everyone that has them installs the stock HPI shafts. I believe the MSR4's always came with 3 mm shafts, the MSR5's claim 3.5 mm shafts. I have a set of MSR4's and have the HPI shafts and the optional spring kit for them. I'm running the red springs right now, which are the second stiffest. It's alot of work for the bling factor, but i dig the look. Bottom line is the stockers are the best shocks for the Savage. If your not looking for the bling factor, put some silicone shock oil in and stick with the stockers.
 
those looked pretty nice on your savage. what tires are those? they look sweet elway.
savager
 

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