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Hey jus for bashing it's been awhile since my last rc nitro I checked out the 8ight looks nice but jus abit outa my price range I'm from Oz it's a lil over 900 compared to hpi which is 500Are you looking to race or just bash around? The HPI from what everyone that has it says is a great truggy for bashing around and very reliable and pretty durable as well. The Kyosho is gonna be the better of the two if you want a racer. My plans for a racer actually is the Losi 8ight-T kit and they sell it RTR as well. Have you concidered it too? Either of the 3 truggies mentioned are quality rigs so its just gonna come down to preference.