Well Boys & Girls the Xray buggy is in testing!

[Arrow]

looks Amazing from what he says.... to bad ill never be able to afford another rc =\ probly no locktite meaning most of the screws have lock nuts or dont do into metal i geuss

 

[uDi_MP7.5]

Yeah I imagine they have the plastic-bushed locknuts along with threaded-end hingepins. That's my suspicion, and if it is, then its NOTHING NEW. I have a set from K-factory on my car.

I still like the e-clips because it makes rebuilding and partial dissasembly less of a hassle than the clipless hingepins, I say this because i've tried both to a reasonable length of time.

I still use threadlock on the plastic bushed locknuts (or whatever you call them) for extra insurance, so I think hudy is just bragging on about nothing about that whole segment.

Unless he has some miracle plan you will obviously still need threadlock on engine mount screws (I wouldn't have it any other way...) and other vibration prone metal to metal parts.

I am not a hater on brands other than Kyosho, if anything IMO Kyoshos latest release is a bitter dissapointment, and before someone asks, i'm pretty sure I could have done better myself (ha ha ha). I was somehow expecting more.

But I do hate it when companies, in this case XRAY, make a huge deal of something that isn't. Especially because it's company generated hype - they are pushing this at you.

That is something Kyosho doesn't do. Yes OTHER sources do, ie neo-buggy and the like, but that is not internal/company, that is "real" hype, considering it is a news site. In my opinion there is nothing under the hood of that XRAY buggy that requires them to show us piece by piece.

Maybe back when the MP7.5 first hit the scene (99-00) this kind of hype may have been acceptable, considering every buggy from then on was based on the platform - but Kyosho still let the buggy do the talking.

I know this is going to spark the flame in someone but don't bother rebutting that, that's MY take on it - that's what I think. I won't think otherwise, considering it is 90% likely that what is under that body is not likely to be too far a departure from the MANY buggies on the market today. Take the stupid cover off and let the buggy do it's own talking juraj.

-uDi


edit- that being said, I just watched the whole presentation, I thought the metal bushed steering knuckle idea was interesting. Not sure how strong the part will be though. If that is his idea on not needing threadlock, I would still use threadlock for the upper part of the screw, because metal-to-metal plus threadlock is more resilient to backing out than regular metal-to-plastic. Long mains demand it.

 

[HumboldtBlazer]

I'm gonna piss on you Udi!!!

 

[dgrobe2112]

I agree somewhat with UDI... however.. i think this buggy is very nice.. looks like alot of engineering went into it.. yeah.. only 1 year to develop.. but it sure looks slick.. the C-hub/PBS is pretty nice.. i dont know bout those composite knucks.. but everything else looks pretty standard.. yeah.. lot of hype.. but i think its worth it..

Anyone know.. where do you buy Xray from???

 

[cbreaker]

The good thing is, like most buggies, if there's something that's not too strong, notably the steering knuckles, there will be an aftermarket metal part available in no time.

Not to say that it will be weak, we don't know. I'm skeptical, but we'll see. It might have been fantastic for their professional drivers, but put in the hands of your every day hobby driver like myself they might not hold up to all my crashes! =)

 

[Arrow]

well the said they tested jumping on asphalt didnt they?

 

[dgrobe2112]

they tested jumpin and landing on everything i read.. but did they wreck the car on purpose.. cuz those good drivers.. know how to wreck softly.. but me.. wreck.. that wold prolly be the first thing to break.. specially with a cartwheel crash

 

[bigheadz]

If you wreck something enough any brand name Buggy will break, All we could hope for is something new thats easy to adjust to our personal driving style. I also think its cool that there are giving us all the good stuff with the kit and not putting weak poop in the box like some of these other companys do. I dont know how much more I have put in my buggy from upgrading all the junk that was in the box. If you look at Xrays track record I think you"ll see that they do not sell Junk , Just top of the line RC.
Just my 2 cents

Bighead

 

[dgrobe2112]

i agree.. i think this buggy is gonna be the one to get...

 

[HumboldtBlazer]

Holy crap

Team X-Ray released pictures with the top off!!!!!!

Dimensions
Length: 482 mm
Width: 306 mm
Height: 180 mm
Wheelbase: 321~327mm
Weight: 3350 g

Chassis
Type: CNC-machined Swiss T6 7075 aluminum
Radio tray and front upper deck: CNC-machined black graphite
Braces: Rigid 7075 aluminum brace

Suspension
Fully adjustable suspension featuring I.S.S. (Integrated Suspension Settings™ )
Rear supension: lower H-arm with adjustable upper camber link
Front suspension: C-hub suspension with I.A.C. (Integrated Adjustable Caster™)
Damping: Machined Aluminum, oil-filled coil-over shocks with 3.5mm shafts and rubber shaft covers

Drivetrain
Type: shaft-driven full-time 4WD w/ center diff.
Primary: steel spur gear / clutch bell
Drive shafts: Hudy Spring SteelTM universal joint
Differentials: Sealed, 6 gear, silicone-filled
Clutch: Aluminum 3-shoe
Bearings: Rubber-sealed

Gearing
Pinion/Spur: 12/40
Primary Ratio: 3.33:1
Internal Ratio: 3.54:1
Final Gear Ratio: 11.79:1

Body, Tires & Wheels
Body: Pro-Line Crowd Pleazer
Tires: Not included
Wheels: XRAY Starburst, standard 17mm hub

Adjustment possibilities
Camber, Caster, Toe-in, Front Inboard Toe-out, Wheelbase, Front Anti-dive,
Rear Anti-squat, Front and Rear Roll-center, Ackermann.

Accessories
Engine: Not included
Exhaust system: Not included
Electronics: Not included
Battery pack: Included 5-cell 6.0V high-endurance 1200NiMH XRAY receiver pack
Fuel tank: 120cc Capacity with hypertonic tank lid, and internal stone type filter

Also Included
Hudy profiTOOLS hex drivers: 1.5mm, 2.0mm, and 2.5mm
Hudy profiTOOLS Philips screwdriver
Wheel tool
Universal tool for all nuts, turnbuckles and shock clips


One word: Finally!

The devil is in the details but I honestly don't see anything revolutionary yet like their hype built it up to be. It should be a great buggy though. Time will tell all.

 

[Nitro_Freak]

the buggy looks really nice, but like veryone else said, doesn't look like there's anything really special on it...

 

[Neo-Buggy Phil]

maybe you should all look closer....
Do you see c clips?
Plus check out the animation of the castor adjustments in the description section

 

[cbreaker]

It reminds me an aweful lot of a Mugen. At least the general design does.. lots of common looking elements.

Ball-end torque rods, eh? Well, unless they got some super duper way of making them rigid, people will be upgrading those like they do with the MBX-5 from Mugen. Strike one for the "luxery as in no upgrades needed." =)

I don't see any C clips (obviously, since there aren't any) but I didn't know they were a big problem. I've got a total of four on my storm, and they are very easy to take off and put on. One of them is on the gas tank lid.

I like the red-ish drive shafts. They look sweet =)

I really like the buggy though. It's great that there's so many really nice buggies hitting the market. We, the consumers, win =)

 

[HumboldtBlazer]

I really think there is more innovation in the materials used than in the actual design/layout of the buggy. Looks very nice but imo was over hyped. Like I said time will tell and I am far from a buggy expert.

 

[Jamie]

Carbon Fibre everywhere! Looks very nice!

 

[Arrow]

how the f*** do those caster bushings stay in ?!!?!?!

 

[Arrow]

ah nm i see.. so now instead of a clip you have to unscrew a tiny allen head to get the hub off... how convienant

 

[uDi_MP7.5]

In my opinion there is nothing under the hood of that XRAY buggy that requires them to show us piece by piece.

Who ever said that was SPOT ON. Wonder who it was.

:fro:

*pisses all over HB*
>>HB is now doused in piss

 

[Çh®i§tiªñ]

No belts on this one.

 

[WA2FAST]

It'll definitely be interesting to see how it performs and how it is actually manufacured. Looks very nice though. The lack of C-Clips is damn nice, but could be ugly with stripping plastic too.