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Powerman2442

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Hello, I just have two quick questions. My first one deals with my Savage 25 rolling to much. In my backyard there are many different terrains I drive on. (gravel, grass, dirt, and concrete.) A lot of the time unless I slow down dramatically when I turn I either end up on two wheels or roll completely. Recently I've messed around with my stock shocks and I've managed to come up with a set-up where the front of the truck sits a little lower then the rear of it. This has helped a lot with control and jumping. I am just wandering if there is a better way to help my truck from rolling over, without it being to close to the ground?

My second question deals with wheelies. I am guessing that my gear ratio is set wrong or I'd be doing them more often. I'ved noticed that unless I am on grass I never pop wheelies. This is a problem because I don't drive on much grass. I'd like to know what gear ratio would produce the most get-up-and go power/speed rather then the one that would give more speed over time. Since the area I drive in isn't more then 200 sq. feet big.

Any advice would help thanks.
 
I take it you mean rolling over. This can be helped by using softer suspension set ups. Normally the Savage has stiff suspension. I set my old Savage up with softer springs and a tad thicker weight in shock oil. You can also purchase some Nova towers that have mulitple shock mounting positions.. If you really want to try something for racing, than a set of Rear 1/8th buggy shocks can be mounted with a few additional things like spacers etc.

As far as wheeiles... you won't get a big response on that issue as it has been brought up like weeds.. Keeps coming back up but eventually dies out.The fasted way to get it to stand on its rear is the 3 speed tranny. Hook that up with a torque monster like the OS 30VG and you will get sick of it being on its lid.

Wheelie factor is not that big when you race as you want to have traction.

Jon
 
Yes, I mean rolling over. I put 50 weight oil in rear and 40 weight oil in front. I put in stronger springs last year but I took out the shock clips is what I am thinking they are called. I removed the front ones to lower it to try and prevent rolling. It did help a lot but when I hit areas that are bumpy and the tires arn't on the ground all the time if I have to break it don't a front flip. I really don't like the tires that are stock on the Savage 25. The are really "sticky" as I would say. The grab the ground well but when I take turns they grab when I don't want them to and cause me to roll. There has been multiple times when I've went on two wheels and drove around like that. Heh.

As for the wheelies I just wanted it to have more power from the get go. Since the area I drive aorund in isnt that big I want it to get to top speed quicker. Normally that means that it can do wheelies left and right. Like my old Stampede.

Thanks for the help.
 
hey waht up whellies r cool I know u want to do the heres how make sure your slipper clutch is tight tighten it all the way down then back it off anout a have turn try that first. what clutch/spur gear combo do u have try a 13tooth clutch bell and 52 tooth spur gear I also have a 3 speed tranny and running a surefire.32 my savage has no problem doing whellies it will ride one untile the fail safe lets me with wheelie bar. Later man HAPPY BASHING
 
if its stock you most likely got a 49 tooth spur. Just get a 52 tooth spur and youll have more wheelies than you'll want.. Wheelies are cool for about 5 minutes then just get annoying, but yeah a simple 52tooth will definatly get them for ya.
 
Careful not to overtighten the slipper. I did and burned the pads doing wheelies.. Gear it different and play with the suspension set up. If you soften the shocks... you will reduce the chance of wheelies.
 
I still believe that with a big block in the Sav, wheelies are just a matter of tuning the engine right. My 4.6 will wheelie on command. Actually it's a bit annoying. I try to power out of a corner and suddenly the wheels come up. Can't steer if the wheels ain't on the ground.

Oh, and for your rolling, consider using swaybars. They help limit chassis roll and on these big MTs with their spongy shocks, they roll like crazy.
 
Swaybars will help with the rolling. I had some on my SS and they worked well. Unfortunately, they don't hold up to well with big air. I destroyed the rear swaybar on a jump and ended up tossing the entire set-up in the trash. 9 times out of 10, upon rolling the Savy will end up on its tires anyway.
 
Yes, the gear ratio is stock. So I will check into a 52 tooth. If I don't like it I can always take it off.

As for not tightening it, I know that. My first truck, a Stampede, with a Megatech .16 went threw around 5 spur gears a weekend. Everything I did to set it up was perfect, and the engine was always cool enough to touch. But for some reason I chewed them left and right.

I'll look into swaybars, but if they arn't very durable then they might not be worth getting.

Would different tires help any?
 
I run traxxas t-maxx chevron tires/wheels. You can normally get a complete set on ebay for around $40 shipped. They get decent forward bite but slide when you turn. They aren't as soft as stock HPI tires either. The HPI tires are good winter tires though, since they are softer, they get better traction in the snow when it's cold. The maxx tires feel like hard plastic in the snow.
 
Well if it helps I never run my truck in the winter. The problem I have with the stock Savage 25 tires is that they, in my mind, are spongelike. That is good for offroad and climbing different things. When I am on gravel/concrete (it is a little of both where I drive) if I get on to much concrete the tires just grab and literally throw the truck on two wheels, or roll it over. I've though about getting some Dirt Bonz since they are onroad/offroad.
 
i run dirt bonz great tyres mine wheelies on wet grass never used to with my HB deathgrips i hear there meant to wear quickly onroad i dunno i run on dirt grass and gravel

savage420 13/52 on a .32 that should be doing crazy wheelies with 18/47 my nosram .28 does
 
If you're primarily running on gravel, packed dirt or asphalt, you can lower your ride height and that will help with the rolling. Since you're not around tall obstacles that you need to clear, drop it down by readjusting the top shock mounting position and removing all preload spacers.
Also, see if you can find some offset wheels. This will space the wheels farther apart which will widen your track width and again help with stability. Like the old Pontiac commercials: "Wider is better".
And use some road tires or tires with small lugs. The Dirt Bonz would work well for this.
 
I have run a stock S-25 and a modded 25. The stock 25 does not wheelie well. I was running 18/52 gearing with the modded 25 and it did it ALL the time. Annoying. Dropping a 3 speed made it worse. I had to let it roll then gun it. Even in 3rd gear it was PITA. I was using the proline mashers.

If you really want wheelies either, drop in a larger motor and or drop the three speed. You will be losing drag races a lot because of the "wheelie factor".
 
"If you're primarily running on gravel, packed dirt or asphalt, you can lower your ride height and that will help with the rolling. Since you're not around tall obstacles that you need to clear, drop it down by readjusting the top shock mounting position and removing all preload spacers.
Also, see if you can find some offset wheels. This will space the wheels farther apart which will widen your track width and again help with stability. Like the old Pontiac commercials: "Wider is better".
And use some road tires or tires with small lugs. The Dirt Bonz would work well for this."

I've lowered my height by taking out preloaded spacers in the front and two in the back. Not sure what offset wheels are. Would you mind giving me a link, thanks. I was also wandering if Traxxas tires would work, like the stock Revo's. Them appear to be good on gravel, etc.

Thanks,
Powerman2442
 

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