Do I need to actually say it?
I agree. They both have a place and a use.
I enjoy my Gorgon quite a bit.
The Granite has been pretty solid since I widened it.
Both get bashed in winter, mud, leaves... I don't mind banging them up.
I imagine your use for the Kraton is similar.
I am aware of the Ultima's limitations as well as where it excels. I would not try to hammer it in my back yard after the first thaw of the year when mud and ice would make it no fun.
I would enjoy the heck out of the Ultima on a track though! In or outdoors, dirt or carpet, these cars did well.
I can't imagine trying to reign in the Gorgon or Granite on a tight track! Might be fun to try tho!