amithus
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Hello everyone. I ran the search feature and have read most posts in this forum topic and I still don't feel like I've answered my question so I'm going to post it. Sorry if this is beating a dead horse but here we go.
Day 1: Picked up a Savage XL 5.9 the other day and brought it home. What a pain to start. The rotostart won't even turn over the engine, so I finally break down and hook up the starter shaft to my drill (I'm sure this is a no-no but I did it) and set the clutch pretty low (setting 9 on a 24 position clutch and put it at low speed) Tried for about an hour to get it to start and finally got it to pop but it won't start without blipping the throttle. I should say that before putting the drill on it, I did clear it for a flood by removing the glow plug and turning the engine over upside down, a few drops came out, replaced plug still no go on the rotostart. (Yes it is charged) Ran the break in procedure as said in the instruction manual but had to put some throttle trim on to keep it running. After that it got late so put it up for the night however I did get all the way through the suggested break in procedures. Put some after run in it and called it a day.
Day 2: Previous night I read all I could find on this thing. Watched you tube videos, read this forum and took the air cleaner off and tried getting a 1mm gap in the idle set screw but the carb locks up right around 1mm. Backed it off until it smoothly opened / closed on it's own power and set all needles back to factory trim on HSN and LSN. Again, rotostart won't turn this thing over, back to the drill. It still won't start without blipping the throttle and revving it a few times to keep it going then I hit the break and it doesn't instantly die but I can't hold the break for more than 10 seconds without it just puttering out. Tried increasing the idle screw again at 1/8 turn increments and could not get this thing to start without blipping throttle still. Finally got to the point where the carb locked up again and figured maybe the thing is just running too rich on the LSN. Backed the idle screw back off so the carb will function smoothly and leaned out the LSN 1/8 turns until it would start a bit easier but still need to blip throttle a few times to get it to start. Idle, not really. On a block I can get it to start, run without touching the throttle for a while but eventually it just dies again. So with my son watching and dying to see this thing actually move we said F-it and put it down and drove it a bit. Got it to the point where I could run it up and down the street a few times then pull it in, do the 1/8 clockwise turn on the HSN as instructed in the manual and felt like I was actually getting somewhere. Took it to the point to where it wasn't producing much smoke then backed it back off 1/8 so it produces good smoke but still runs OK. Now for the LSN. Started messing with that and almost got it to wheelie but it's so un-reliable that I can't idle it well without worrying that it's going to die on us, good throttle response, I know we can tune it more to get that awesome power we see others get but I want to actually see this thing idle, without moving, for lets say, 30 seconds / 1 minute.
Am I asking too much from a new engine with 6 tanks through it? I would say that out of those 6 tanks, at least 1 tank was just spinning the starter and a brownish oil coming out of the pipe but it not running. I've cleared it for flooding several times, checked the glow plug and it's red hot.
I'm new to nitro. I have a 1/5th scale but that's a whole other story. I understand that thing. I'm just having a lot of issues lately with this 5.9. I mean, I'm in love with this truck, it's huge, it supposedly has power and awesome torque but I just want it to start like the guys I see on youtube. Turn the rotostart a few times, starts up and bam, idle.
Suggestions, comments, flames, whatever it takes to get this thing to run right. I was thinking of replacing the carb / asking for a new one from HPI as this thing is not even 72 hours old. I've even toyed with a different engine but there is NO WAY I'm giving up unless told to do so by someone with experience.
I'm not an idiot, I can follow instructions, I'm a grown adult with patience so as far as I can tell, I'm not doing anything really wrong I'm just mis-guided, but my wife says that all the time. I know no 2 engines are the same but about how far would you say you have to lean this thing out from factory to get it to run nicely? 1 turn, 2 turns total?
HELP!!!! (Sorry for the long post, I'm in IT and I can type)
Day 1: Picked up a Savage XL 5.9 the other day and brought it home. What a pain to start. The rotostart won't even turn over the engine, so I finally break down and hook up the starter shaft to my drill (I'm sure this is a no-no but I did it) and set the clutch pretty low (setting 9 on a 24 position clutch and put it at low speed) Tried for about an hour to get it to start and finally got it to pop but it won't start without blipping the throttle. I should say that before putting the drill on it, I did clear it for a flood by removing the glow plug and turning the engine over upside down, a few drops came out, replaced plug still no go on the rotostart. (Yes it is charged) Ran the break in procedure as said in the instruction manual but had to put some throttle trim on to keep it running. After that it got late so put it up for the night however I did get all the way through the suggested break in procedures. Put some after run in it and called it a day.
Day 2: Previous night I read all I could find on this thing. Watched you tube videos, read this forum and took the air cleaner off and tried getting a 1mm gap in the idle set screw but the carb locks up right around 1mm. Backed it off until it smoothly opened / closed on it's own power and set all needles back to factory trim on HSN and LSN. Again, rotostart won't turn this thing over, back to the drill. It still won't start without blipping the throttle and revving it a few times to keep it going then I hit the break and it doesn't instantly die but I can't hold the break for more than 10 seconds without it just puttering out. Tried increasing the idle screw again at 1/8 turn increments and could not get this thing to start without blipping throttle still. Finally got to the point where the carb locked up again and figured maybe the thing is just running too rich on the LSN. Backed the idle screw back off so the carb will function smoothly and leaned out the LSN 1/8 turns until it would start a bit easier but still need to blip throttle a few times to get it to start. Idle, not really. On a block I can get it to start, run without touching the throttle for a while but eventually it just dies again. So with my son watching and dying to see this thing actually move we said F-it and put it down and drove it a bit. Got it to the point where I could run it up and down the street a few times then pull it in, do the 1/8 clockwise turn on the HSN as instructed in the manual and felt like I was actually getting somewhere. Took it to the point to where it wasn't producing much smoke then backed it back off 1/8 so it produces good smoke but still runs OK. Now for the LSN. Started messing with that and almost got it to wheelie but it's so un-reliable that I can't idle it well without worrying that it's going to die on us, good throttle response, I know we can tune it more to get that awesome power we see others get but I want to actually see this thing idle, without moving, for lets say, 30 seconds / 1 minute.
Am I asking too much from a new engine with 6 tanks through it? I would say that out of those 6 tanks, at least 1 tank was just spinning the starter and a brownish oil coming out of the pipe but it not running. I've cleared it for flooding several times, checked the glow plug and it's red hot.
I'm new to nitro. I have a 1/5th scale but that's a whole other story. I understand that thing. I'm just having a lot of issues lately with this 5.9. I mean, I'm in love with this truck, it's huge, it supposedly has power and awesome torque but I just want it to start like the guys I see on youtube. Turn the rotostart a few times, starts up and bam, idle.
Suggestions, comments, flames, whatever it takes to get this thing to run right. I was thinking of replacing the carb / asking for a new one from HPI as this thing is not even 72 hours old. I've even toyed with a different engine but there is NO WAY I'm giving up unless told to do so by someone with experience.
I'm not an idiot, I can follow instructions, I'm a grown adult with patience so as far as I can tell, I'm not doing anything really wrong I'm just mis-guided, but my wife says that all the time. I know no 2 engines are the same but about how far would you say you have to lean this thing out from factory to get it to run nicely? 1 turn, 2 turns total?
HELP!!!! (Sorry for the long post, I'm in IT and I can type)